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Avelaval
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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2005, 01:43:35 PM »

The fetus wanting to live is not enough. All those people in Iraq wanted to live, but they didn't. Executed criminals wanted to live, but they didn't. Plus there are countless non-human life forms that wanted to live, but got shot/caught/chopped/harvested/slaughtered/etc.

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.

Members of a society (workplace, home, country, etc.) are out to make sure the society works for them. Ultimately, if a society doesn't work for a certain member, then that member leaves. So, the questions I think should be asked are these:
1. Who are the members of our society?
2. Is allowing abortion working for the members of our society?
3. Would outlawing abortion work better?

Just a thought.
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2005, 01:45:28 PM »

Simply because the fetus can't state its opinion doesn't mean it has none. As a matter of fact, it does. The fetus has the opinion that every single mentally normal human being has-- survival. All life seeks survival of themselves, and the mere fact that the fetus is surviving in the girl's womb is the absolute evidence that the fetus wants to live.

You might as well say her appendix has the will to live.
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« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2005, 12:00:38 AM »

The fetus wanting to live is not enough. All those people in Iraq wanted to live, but they didn't. Executed criminals wanted to live, but they didn't. Plus there are countless non-human life forms that wanted to live, but got shot/caught/chopped/harvested/slaughtered/etc.

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.

Members of a society (workplace, home, country, etc.) are out to make sure the society works for them. Ultimately, if a society doesn't work for a certain member, then that member leaves. So, the questions I think should be asked are these:
1. Who are the members of our society?
2. Is allowing abortion working for the members of our society?
3. Would outlawing abortion work better?

Just a thought.

I'm glad you are willing to put a innocent baby on the same level as a convicted criminal. Sick.
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« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2005, 03:19:42 AM »

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.
That is indeed the wrong question...as in, that's not the question posed by Law in this situation...although it's the question the authorities seem to be wanting to answer instead.
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« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2005, 12:40:28 PM »

The fetus wanting to live is not enough. All those people in Iraq wanted to live, but they didn't. Executed criminals wanted to live, but they didn't. Plus there are countless non-human life forms that wanted to live, but got shot/caught/chopped/harvested/slaughtered/etc.

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.

Members of a society (workplace, home, country, etc.) are out to make sure the society works for them. Ultimately, if a society doesn't work for a certain member, then that member leaves. So, the questions I think should be asked are these:
1. Who are the members of our society?
2. Is allowing abortion working for the members of our society?
3. Would outlawing abortion work better?

Just a thought.

I'm glad you are willing to put a innocent baby on the same level as a convicted criminal. Sick.

First off, I'll nitpick based on semantics. It is not a baby. It is a fetus.

Secondly, who said I'm placing them on the same level? I'm merely pointing out that they share a commonality: the desire to live.
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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2005, 12:31:02 AM »

The fetus wanting to live is not enough. All those people in Iraq wanted to live, but they didn't. Executed criminals wanted to live, but they didn't. Plus there are countless non-human life forms that wanted to live, but got shot/caught/chopped/harvested/slaughtered/etc.

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.

Members of a society (workplace, home, country, etc.) are out to make sure the society works for them. Ultimately, if a society doesn't work for a certain member, then that member leaves. So, the questions I think should be asked are these:
1. Who are the members of our society?
2. Is allowing abortion working for the members of our society?
3. Would outlawing abortion work better?

Just a thought.

I'm glad you are willing to put a innocent baby on the same level as a convicted criminal. Sick.

First off, I'll nitpick based on semantics. It is not a baby. It is a fetus.

Secondly, who said I'm placing them on the same level? I'm merely pointing out that they share a commonality: the desire to live.

Your "fetus" is of course a baby as life certainly begins at conception. Those who support abortion are supporters of murder. Their is no : if, and or but in this situation. Abortion is murder, plain and simple.
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2005, 10:23:18 AM »

The fetus wanting to live is not enough. All those people in Iraq wanted to live, but they didn't. Executed criminals wanted to live, but they didn't. Plus there are countless non-human life forms that wanted to live, but got shot/caught/chopped/harvested/slaughtered/etc.

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.

Members of a society (workplace, home, country, etc.) are out to make sure the society works for them. Ultimately, if a society doesn't work for a certain member, then that member leaves. So, the questions I think should be asked are these:
1. Who are the members of our society?
2. Is allowing abortion working for the members of our society?
3. Would outlawing abortion work better?

Just a thought.

I'm glad you are willing to put a innocent baby on the same level as a convicted criminal. Sick.

First off, I'll nitpick based on semantics. It is not a baby. It is a fetus.

Secondly, who said I'm placing them on the same level? I'm merely pointing out that they share a commonality: the desire to live.

Your "fetus" is of course a baby as life certainly begins at conception. Those who support abortion are supporters of murder. Their is no : if, and or but in this situation. Abortion is murder, plain and simple.

So is masturbation.
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« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2005, 11:41:33 AM »

The fetus wanting to live is not enough. All those people in Iraq wanted to live, but they didn't. Executed criminals wanted to live, but they didn't. Plus there are countless non-human life forms that wanted to live, but got shot/caught/chopped/harvested/slaughtered/etc.

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.

Members of a society (workplace, home, country, etc.) are out to make sure the society works for them. Ultimately, if a society doesn't work for a certain member, then that member leaves. So, the questions I think should be asked are these:
1. Who are the members of our society?
2. Is allowing abortion working for the members of our society?
3. Would outlawing abortion work better?

Just a thought.

I'm glad you are willing to put a innocent baby on the same level as a convicted criminal. Sick.

First off, I'll nitpick based on semantics. It is not a baby. It is a fetus.

Secondly, who said I'm placing them on the same level? I'm merely pointing out that they share a commonality: the desire to live.

Your "fetus" is of course a baby as life certainly begins at conception. Those who support abortion are supporters of murder. Their is no : if, and or but in this situation. Abortion is murder, plain and simple.
So how are you gonna debate with someone if...that's why I used to stay out of these discussions. Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2005, 02:29:36 PM »

The fetus wanting to live is not enough. All those people in Iraq wanted to live, but they didn't. Executed criminals wanted to live, but they didn't. Plus there are countless non-human life forms that wanted to live, but got shot/caught/chopped/harvested/slaughtered/etc.

However, I think we're asking the wrong question. We're asking whether abortion is wrong or not.

Members of a society (workplace, home, country, etc.) are out to make sure the society works for them. Ultimately, if a society doesn't work for a certain member, then that member leaves. So, the questions I think should be asked are these:
1. Who are the members of our society?
2. Is allowing abortion working for the members of our society?
3. Would outlawing abortion work better?

Just a thought.

I'm glad you are willing to put a innocent baby on the same level as a convicted criminal. Sick.

First off, I'll nitpick based on semantics. It is not a baby. It is a fetus.

Secondly, who said I'm placing them on the same level? I'm merely pointing out that they share a commonality: the desire to live.

Your "fetus" is of course a baby as life certainly begins at conception. Those who support abortion are supporters of murder. Their is no : if, and or but in this situation. Abortion is murder, plain and simple.

So is masturbation.

Oh wow, I didn't know you could conceive in your hand!!
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« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2005, 03:16:47 PM »

Murder is a word that could also be used to describe a great many other things that are legal. I can provide examples if you wish.
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« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2005, 03:41:04 PM »

Absolutely disgusting.
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« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2005, 03:41:47 PM »


Yes, abortion certainly is.
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