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« on: May 06, 2015, 06:10:59 AM »

as in Citizenship

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So the questions are:
- can a GOPer support a path to citizenship and win the nomination?
- can a GOPer win the general without a path to citizenship?

Unfortunately the answer to both questions is 'unlikely'
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 09:06:08 AM »

It's actually a surprisingly bold move, especially this early.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 09:35:08 AM »

RIP GOP Latino voter outreach efforts.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 09:59:35 AM »

So the questions are:
- can a GOPer support a path to citizenship and win the nomination?
- can a GOPer win the general without a path to citizenship?

Unfortunately the answer to both questions is 'unlikely'

Hell yeah, man! Republicans NEED to embrace Immigration Reform to win over the all-important Hispanic vote! I mean, remember when Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act back in 1986 and turned Hispanics into a solid Republican voting bloc?

Oh, wait, you mean that DIDN'T happen? You mean to tell me that the percentage of Hispanics voting Republican DECREASED from 37% in 1984 to 30% in 1988??? Aw shucks, LV, for a second I thought we were on to something there.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 10:04:13 AM »

The best they can do is have the same policy positions as Romney, but avoid phrases like "self-deportation" and try to at least be credibly trying to appeal to Hispanics.  People don't actually care that much about policy anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 11:13:33 AM »

ugh, when will this neoliberal DINO stop articulating a platform that is further to the left than Obama's?! it's making the baseless anti-Clinton cynicism so hard to maintain
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 12:03:52 PM »

So the questions are:
- can a GOPer support a path to citizenship and win the nomination?
- can a GOPer win the general without a path to citizenship?

Unfortunately the answer to both questions is 'unlikely'

Hell yeah, man! Republicans NEED to embrace Immigration Reform to win over the all-important Hispanic vote! I mean, remember when Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act back in 1986 and turned Hispanics into a solid Republican voting bloc?

Oh, wait, you mean that DIDN'T happen? You mean to tell me that the percentage of Hispanics voting Republican DECREASED from 37% in 1984 to 30% in 1988??? Aw shucks, LV, for a second I thought we were on to something there.
If this was how things worked, African Americans would still vote Republican because they helped them out on that slavery issue back in the day.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 10:38:08 PM »

If they have been granted permanent legal resident status, rather than just guest workers, I can't see the point in not granting citizenship.  It's a compromise without a point, just a posture to take to seem like it's not amnesty.  I don't think many people really buy it. If a person is concerned about illegal immigrants, it wouldn't matter that they are not citizens because to them they are still there coming apart from the legal channels, competing for jobs. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2015, 12:20:44 AM »

Hillary is SO far right, ugh!
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2015, 12:26:09 AM »

It is interesting to see how the various GOPers react to this. Only Walker has really taken the bait
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Just last week Walker said that the path to the White House goes through the "industrial midwest" and he mentioned OH, MI, and PA. Could it be that Walker's strategy is to try the Romney 'last great white hope' campaign again?
 
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