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Question: Which of these parties would you vote for?
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Emergent Social Alliance
 
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People's Democratic Party
 
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Liberals for Freedom and Democracy
 
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Left Liberation Front
 
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The Underground
 
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« on: May 06, 2015, 09:59:57 AM »

In a fictional country:

Emergent Social Alliance: This is the primary "left" party. However unlike most such parties, while pro-labor and having the support of most unions, the party is actually more rooted in Christianity and a Christian democratic tradition than a labor movement one. The party's platform is explicitly Christian, makes many references to its policies as following in the way of Jesus and often quotes the Bible. Despite this the party is liberal on most social issues, supporting same sex marriage, marijuana legalization and drug decriminalization, and spends a lot of its platform talking about gender equality, with abolishing the gender pay gap and fighting violence against women being top priorities. It even uses the spelling "womyn" and "humyn" in its platform. Despite this, the party is far more divided on abortion, with many factions opposed to it. The party also supports an expansive social safety net, and spends a lot of the platform on alternative energy funding and environmentalist policies, or "respecting God's Creation" as its puts it. It also supports universal healthcare, massive increases to public education funding and cuts to university tuition fees, and loosening immigraton law, though the party has been criticized by the Vatican and Muslim countries due to its activists including many working in social welfare services for immigrants proselytizing and converting immigrants from Catholic and Muslim countries to non-denominational Protestantism. The LDS church has also ceased sending missionaries to its strongholds due to that they were more likely to come back converted than having converted anyone. The party also drew some criticism from secular activists for its policies in one state after taking in power in changing the public schools curriculum and linking atheism to communist countries and the ideology of Ayn Rand and arguing that either is the logical extension of atheism. The party supports very lax laws on alcohol, and massive subsidies to the alcohol industry, but only independent and small microbrewers, not the large alcohol companies.

TL;DR version: They are basically SJW theocrats.

People's Democratic Party: The very generic name tells little about the ideology, which is fitting as the party is difficult to classify. Like the ESA it's an explicitly Christian party, but a far more conservative one, which opposes same sex marriage on the grounds of the Bible as the source of all law. The party however does support civil unions for same sex couples. It also supports Christianity as the state religion, and restrictions on other religions such as banning constructions of new mosques, and mandatory indoctrination classes for Muslim immigrants though the party has some moderate positions on immigration and doesn't support deporting illegal immigrants who have applied for citizenship. The party is also unambiguously opposed to abortion. The party tends to take middle ground positions though on most economic issues, condemning both the left and right's healthcare policies, and appears to favor some sort of public/private hybrid with large subsidies as the best means of providing universal healthcare, is critical of the big business right and oil industry but supports construction of new pipelines, tends to waver back and forth on supporting right to work policies, and is somewhat critical of the welfare state with some leader having made controversial comments on that generous welfare policies mean that children of welfare recipients will want to do the same upon becoming on adult, but don't support a complete gutting of it like the right. The party supports tough on crime and law and order measures and opposed marijuana legalization.

TL;DR version: A Wulfric-style combination of extreme social conservatism and Moderate Heroism.

Liberals for Freedom and Democracy: The main right-wing party and on paper a free market classic liberal party, but in effect a bit different from most. The party is not very socially conservative, and supports legal abortion and marijuana, and didn't opposes same sex marriage. However economically the party tends to be rather extreme and has no problem with complete gutting of social welfare policies and state agencies. It supports complete privatization of the country's Social Security, right to work and a ban on unions in the public sector, a completely privatized healthcare system and massive cuts to education funding and a focus and move to private and charter schools instead. The party is openly hostile to labor, with one of the leaders saying they would be happy to see union members lose their job, and another attracting controversy when referring to people on public assistance as "moochers". True to this the party also has supported cutting down on immigration and accuses immigrants of seeking its generous welfare benefits. It includes many leaders who cite Ayn Rand as an influence, and also many leaders who are openly atheist and has been critical of the ESA not only for its economic policies but Christianity.

TL;DR version: Randians with krazen-style rhetoric.

Left Liberation Front: The Left Liberation Front is a party with an explicitly Marxist platform. It is strongly opposed to all other parties, condemning both big business, elites and the explicitly Christian ESA, while also attacking political correctness and mocking the language used by the ESA on gender issues. The party has been criticized for being inconsistent with Marxism though, with many intellectuals attacking it as political opportunists or simply using a Marxist veneer for being effectively a personalist vehicle for many of its leaders who have shown poor understanding of Marxist thought in interviews and debates. The use of bombastic terminology and "edgy" rhetoric is the party's primary defining trait.

TL;DR version: "Edgy" True Leftists.

The Underground: The Underground is a relatively recent party formed online, where it conducts most of its business and even conventions. Opposition to government surveillance and corporate control of the Internet is its primary issues. Outside of that, the party is a bit difficult to classify. The party tends toward social liberalism, it supports drug legalization and abortion being legal, and has a platform supporting same-sex marriage, but many of its activists have been caught making homophobic comments and it appears its support of this is more based on opposition to religious social conservatives than actual principles. The party's leadership is mostly atheist and almost exclusively male, leading to massive conflict with the ESA even socially, as it also mocks political correctness and has made comments in the past about women that have caused much controversy as well as comments about how "the white male is the most discriminated group today" and attacks on feminism. The party is the only one to take a stance on circumcision, which it is strongly opposed to. The party's economic policy is hard to classify, it supports greater education funding and some form of universal health care, but also attacks welfare policies for the lowest classes, immigrants, and also supports right to work laws. The party is also rather critical of big business and the wealthiest classes, and seems to position itself as a party for the middle class, with the lower classes as leeches on it and the higher classes as exploiters of it and due to this supports both a more progressive tax structure and gutting of social welfare policies.

TL;DR version: A Reddit style combination of libertarianism, middle class populism and heavy MRA influence.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 10:08:46 AM »

None of the above, they're all horrible.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 12:05:42 PM »

You know that the people who use terms like "womyn" are universally horrible transphobes?

(Also, option 4)
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 01:17:03 PM »

armed insurrection
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 01:39:05 PM »

Option 1, but I dislike the SJW "womyn" kinds.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 01:55:50 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 01:59:16 PM »

You know that the people who use terms like "womyn" are universally horrible transphobes?

(Also, option 4)

Some bands use it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Huhc1w5kYQU
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 02:38:35 PM »

You know that the people who use terms like "womyn" are universally horrible transphobes?

(Also, option 4)

Some bands use it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Huhc1w5kYQU

Okay?
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2015, 02:41:32 PM »

ESA sounds okay, while the others need to be violently crushed.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2015, 02:43:48 PM »

People's Democratic Party: The very generic name tells little about the ideology, which is fitting as the party is difficult to classify.

Amusingly right on with Nigeria's PDP.
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2015, 03:03:55 PM »

Liberals for Freedom and Democracy.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2015, 03:04:51 PM »

Liberals for Freedom and Democracy.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2015, 03:26:23 PM »

Option 1.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2015, 03:50:08 PM »

Emigration.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2015, 03:57:45 PM »

Option 1, but I dislike the SJW "womyn" kinds.

This.

Also the Underground basically sounds like Nazism under Albert Speer.
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2015, 06:42:21 PM »


Hmm? I thought you were OK with liberal Christians.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 06:52:43 PM »

None of these parties would have my support
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2015, 06:54:21 PM »

would hold my nose and vote esa
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2015, 07:47:22 PM »

ESA(proud Episcopalian) 
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2015, 07:57:22 PM »

Liberals for Freedom and Democracy   
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2015, 08:01:35 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2015, 08:07:54 PM by traininthedistance »


Yes, but a) there's a difference between "liberal Christian" and "SJW theocrat", and b) any society where "SJW theocrat" is the naturally largest party of the left is not one I want to have much to do with.  Even if it is, admittedly, the least bad option.
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2015, 08:06:38 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2015, 08:22:04 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2015, 08:27:42 PM by Pacific Speaker Türkisblau »

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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2015, 08:41:07 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2015, 11:30:27 PM by Clash »

PDP (evil theocrat)
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2015, 09:58:33 PM »

a tough choice between the Randian Scrooges and the microaggressed microbrewers.
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