Labour Party leadership election 2015

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Jarvis seems like the best choice although it's a bit troubling that someone who's only been in Parliament since 2011 can be a contender.

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Jarvis seems like the best choice although it's a bit troubling that someone who's only been in Parliament since 2011 can be a contender.

The current PM...

Though it doesn't make your point any less valid.

I thought it was weird when Cameron got it, too!

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In a brief comment to the press, Umunna says it was the sick burns laid by Obamaisadabest that convinced him to end his bid.

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In reality it is probably due to lacking sufficient support.

I'd actually imagine that one of the tabloids has some SHOCKING STORY about his personal life. He was a garage DJ after all.

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If the Labour Party elects a guy called Tristram as leader they should disband immediately.


e: Suggesting we refer to withdrawals as "a reverse Farage".

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Oh God.

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Yes, it looks as if (in nominations terms) there's only room for one of them.

Oh and Danczuk is not running for Deputy.

Looks like my crucial endorsement will go to Tom Watson then.

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Kendall is Tony Blair in a dress.

Tony Blair won three general elections, so that's not exactly a bad thing.

And is one of the reasons for Labour losing the last two.

...what?

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I've always thought it was strange that Labour won a majority in 2005 and then Blair somehow caused them to lose elections years after he'd left office.

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I haven't really been following this, a... are we actually talking about a Corbyn leadership as if it's a realistic possibility?

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So who does everyone on here favour?

I've already stated that I think Yvette Cooper is the best candidate of this mediocre and uninspiring bunch.

[1] Kendall
[2] Uhhhh Cooper?
[3] Burnham
[4] RIP Labour Party candidate

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Who's our Jimmy Carter?

https://medium.com/@davidbutler100/jeremy-corbyn-labour-s-george-mcgovern-60b52a98bbfc

Harold Wilson and he died in 1995.

Surely that's a bit uncharitable to Wilson?

If anything it's a bit uncharitable to Carter.

Carter didn't have the excuse of being continuously undermined by the intelligence services.

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As a member of the 'Milifandon' Miliband had a clear left wing stance, and this revisionist claptrap that we didn't offer enough in 2015 has already started-I've seen the mantra that Miliband was held back by the Blairites but let's look at what we were offering- An elected House of Lords, increased Bank Levy,  regional investment banks, 50p tax rate, mansion tax, getting rid of non doms, a joined up health and social care, cutting tuition fees to 6,000 and so on. It was actually quite a big package of reform

The thing is the Left choose to believe otherwise because it means they don't have to sully themselves by winning over people who voted for other parties - they can just ~expand the electorate~ on a left-wing platform and win comfortably. Note an outright Trot maniac like Zanas above saying Miliband was some kind of Tory sellout.

Excellent point on the gap between policies people will support in opinion polls and actually voting for the party proposing them. The death penalty comparison is one I've made many times.

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Many in the Corbyn campaign have argued that a new winning coalition can be formed of radicals in Scotland, former Green voters, disillusioned Ukip voters and those who otherwise do not vote.

Is this real? Do they actually think this? Jesus christ.

It's very seductive to imagine that you don't need nasty Tory voters to win an election.

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RIP PAEDOS

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"Watch your backs" - Watson

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Iain Duncan Smith won about 60% of the Tory membership in 2001 too, this is so eerie

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Corbyn has now said that he intends to share out the leading role at PMQs with other MPs... er, what?

May be a sign that he intends to be a Chairman style of leader rather than a Leader style of leader. Which may be for the best...

You know who else was a Chairman style of leader?

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Jesus Christ

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McDonnell is Shadow Chancellor.

I assume this means he's terrible.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/2949688.stm