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« on: May 08, 2015, 03:30:00 PM »

While governor of Florida, Jeb Bush delivered a lucrative tax break to subsidize an evangelical group’s efforts to block Internet users from learning about homosexuality or accessing pornography. The taxpayer money was directed to a company owned by the American Family Association (AFA), a prominent grass-roots organization representing a social conservative base that could prove pivotal in the 2016 Republican presidential primaries.

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Meanwhile, those who know Bush from his time as governor have been touting his conservative record in Florida. That record is replete with support for the religious right’s causes, and his subsidy for the AFA exemplifies both his social conservatism -- and the perils it may present in a general election.

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But liberal activists cite Bush’s support for group’s Web filter as proof that he remains too close to social conservatives.

"That Jeb Bush gave taxpayer money to a subsidiary of a hate group whose founder has compared homosexuality to theft and murder and has claimed that gay people target children speaks volumes about who Bush is as an elected official,” said Michael Keegan of the liberal activist group People for the American Way. “If there was any question about his extremism before, this eliminates any shred of doubt.”

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2015, 03:33:50 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2015, 03:37:37 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

Not a Bush fan but in all fairness Bill Clinton was arguably the most anti-Gay President at least measured by current standards.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2015, 04:02:43 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

Not a Bush fan but in all fairness Bill Clinton was arguably the most anti-Gay President at least measured by current standards.

Unless the issue was AIDS, then Reagan was the worst.

But such a discussion is completely irrelevant to the point that Christian groups seen as anti-gay donate 100% to 0 to the Republicans.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2015, 04:41:03 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

Not a Bush fan but in all fairness Bill Clinton was arguably the most anti-Gay President at least measured by current standards.

Unless the issue was AIDS, then Reagan was the worst.

But such a discussion is completely irrelevant to the point that Christian groups seen as anti-gay donate 100% to 0 to the Republicans.

What could Reagan do to stop AIDS? What did Clinton do?
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2015, 05:40:13 PM »

It's easy to condemn Bill Clinton for signing DOMA and shifting to Don't Ask Don't Tell during the 1990s, but gays weren't exactly very popular in either party back then and a majority of voters approved of both of these policies.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2015, 07:35:47 PM »

Yes, a group creating tech jobs got tech industry tax credits.  These tax credits are stupid generally, not just because one of the many companies getting them had an awful anti-gay parent organization.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2015, 12:28:30 AM »

What could Reagan do to stop AIDS?

He could have, you know, acknowledged it a little earlier.

This is part of the transcript from the first mention of it by anyone in Reagan's administration, from a WH press briefing in 1982, with Reagan's press secretary.

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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2015, 12:35:31 AM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

The government giving funds to an advocacy group?

That is abominable.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2015, 12:48:40 AM »

What could Reagan do to stop AIDS?

He could have, you know, acknowledged it a little earlier.

This is part of the transcript from the first mention of it by anyone in Reagan's administration, from a WH press briefing in 1982, with Reagan's press secretary.

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That is so terrifying.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 12:51:25 AM »

It's easy to condemn Bill Clinton for signing DOMA and shifting to Don't Ask Don't Tell during the 1990s, but gays weren't exactly very popular in either party back then and a majority of voters approved of both of these policies.

And the latter was Fair For Its Day.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2015, 01:47:50 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

The government giving funds to an advocacy group?

That is abominable.
But Planned Parenthood is fine amirite?
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2015, 02:11:37 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

The government giving funds to an advocacy group?

That is abominable.
But Planned Parenthood is fine amirite?

Planned parenthood has a purpose and that's to make sure men and women can make healthcare decisions (women can get birth control) and get tested for diseases (such as cancer (mammograms), STD's), get help with topics concerning pregnancy, (sex, sexual orientation/gender), and rarely performs abortions. Planned parenthood is a necessary program while these anti-gay groups are only hurting people who have done nothing wrong in the name of God.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2015, 02:21:40 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

The government giving funds to an advocacy group?

That is abominable.
But Planned Parenthood is fine amirite?

Planned parenthood has a purpose and that's to make sure men and women can make healthcare decisions (women can get birth control) and get tested for diseases (such as cancer (mammograms), STD's), get help with topics concerning pregnancy, (sex, sexual orientation/gender), and rarely performs abortions. Planned parenthood is a necessary program while these anti-gay groups are only hurting people who have done nothing wrong in the name of God.
Most abortions (meaning outside of rape, incest, or the mothers health) are basically as bad for society as homophobia is. Planned Parenthood doesn't ask questions, they just abort. I'm sure plenty of other organizations provide birth control, STD screenings, and mammograms but not frivolous abortions.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2015, 02:47:45 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

The government giving funds to an advocacy group?

That is abominable.
But Planned Parenthood is fine amirite?

Planned parenthood has a purpose and that's to make sure men and women can make healthcare decisions (women can get birth control) and get tested for diseases (such as cancer (mammograms), STD's), get help with topics concerning pregnancy, (sex, sexual orientation/gender), and rarely performs abortions. Planned parenthood is a necessary program while these anti-gay groups are only hurting people who have done nothing wrong in the name of God.
Most abortions (meaning outside of rape, incest, or the mothers health) are basically as bad for society as homophobia is. Planned Parenthood doesn't ask questions, they just abort. I'm sure plenty of other organizations provide birth control, STD screenings, and mammograms but not frivolous abortions.

Explain to me why abortions are worse for society than anti-gay groups and why you consider them "frivolous".
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2015, 12:40:36 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

The government giving funds to an advocacy group?

That is abominable.
But Planned Parenthood is fine amirite?

Planned parenthood has a purpose and that's to make sure men and women can make healthcare decisions (women can get birth control) and get tested for diseases (such as cancer (mammograms), STD's), get help with topics concerning pregnancy, (sex, sexual orientation/gender), and rarely performs abortions. Planned parenthood is a necessary program while these anti-gay groups are only hurting people who have done nothing wrong in the name of God.
Most abortions (meaning outside of rape, incest, or the mothers health) are basically as bad for society as homophobia is. Planned Parenthood doesn't ask questions, they just abort. I'm sure plenty of other organizations provide birth control, STD screenings, and mammograms but not frivolous abortions.

Explain to me why abortions are worse for society than anti-gay groups and why you consider them "frivolous".
A "frivolous" abortion is an abortion that involves the death of an unborn child for no other reason other than the fact that the mother is "not ready" to have children. Anti-gay groups, while vile, are increasingly maligned. They don't affect society (they certainly did in 2001, but in 2015, they are irrelevant) in the same manner that the increasing loss of respect for the concept of life does. At least in 2015. 2001, when gay marriage was a dream and not a reality, is a different story as discrimination against gay people was basically on the books.
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2015, 01:16:08 PM »

I'd be shocked to find a Republican that doesn't make favors for religious anti-gay groups, especially in 2001.

The government giving funds to an advocacy group?

That is abominable.
But Planned Parenthood is fine amirite?

Advocacy is a tiny part of Planned Parenthood.
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