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« on: May 08, 2015, 05:02:32 PM »

More evidence that white men are the real victims of oppression and discrimination. Sad

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2015, 05:58:49 PM »

want me to find you some examples of people arguing exactly that?

No, because I'm aware there are plenty of fools arguing exactly that. But simply expressing concern or disagreement over what was in the original post does not mean you are immediately doing that.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2015, 09:24:36 PM »

I love how Beet has gotten all in my face about feminist issues before but then he requotes that.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2015, 11:36:24 AM »

Cory, I like you and all, you're a better person than people think you are, but please don't post while drunk. You know it never works out.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2015, 11:08:28 AM »

You're deliberately misunderstanding the proper concept of privilege, though, and only attacking a version of it that only the craziest of the social justice types actually believe, that whites/males/white males always, in every situation, have greater privileges than anyone else. This is obviously untrue and I haven't seen anyone in this thread actually argue that.

"White male privilege" only means there are certain situations where, other things being equal, you are likely to be favored because of your race and/or sex. Obviously the upper class black female NYC stock-broker is more privileged than the Kentucky white male fast-food worker. But there's really no way an intellectually honest individual can look at things like statistics for arrests, or who gets hired for certain jobs, and not realize these things are a factor and are bent in your favor. To what extent, or where, or in what circumstances that is bent in your favor, can be argued, fine. But it very often is.

Nowhere in these processes are people trying to get you to apologize for being white. Well, no one reasonable, anyway. I'm curious what logic led you to the conclusion that people were.

And I wouldn't base an entire argument off this, as it's sort of a fallacy I guess, but could you at least admit the possibility that you don't think you've benefited from privilege in your life because you just didn't notice? And that simply not noticing a phenomenon doesn't mean it isn't there?
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2015, 07:56:37 PM »
« Edited: May 26, 2015, 08:01:43 PM by Marokai Besieged »

You know what I've noticed?
I've noticed on every job application I fill out, it asks me if I'm black or latino, followed by a disclaimer saying the employer is an "equal opportunity employer." So, to me, that'd imply that if I put down I was black or Latino, I'd have a higher chance of getting the job.

These things usually don't really mean anything, though, for most jobs. They're on there because they have to be and usually serve as a means to collect statistics rather than a way to keep the white man down. Affirmative action is not the omnipresent force that you make it out to be, even setting aside the qualitative argument of it all.

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Why does this not make sense to you? The poverty rate for black Americans is roughly twice as high as whites. The graduation rate for blacks is substantially lower. Blacks are less likely than whites to be hired even with a college/university education and still make less money, anyway. Do you really not see a legitimate cause for efforts made to specifically increase the amount of black students in colleges and universities?

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I don't know how you can look at statistics that show blacks are killed by cops at a rate ten times higher than whites and not realize race must be a component. Hell, you mention big cities, and NYC is the classic example of police disproportionately harassing minorities for doing nothing wrong.

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How would you explain this?

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I'm a high school drop-out with a GED and if you think I'm a "cultural Marxist" you know very little about the arguments I've gotten into on these topics in the past.

Atlas is the only site where I can be called both a rape-apologist MRA and also cultural marxist PC-lover.

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Honestly when it comes to this I say the same to you as I say to social justice types that argue "society" is misogynistic or whatever. Who is "society" here? Who is doing this to you? What authority figure, what organization, what government in this country, or even in the Western world is doing this? And what are "they" specifically doing to cause these vague hurt feelings? Where's the "Men Suck & They're Uncool Act"? There are many, many individual components of "society" and when you get to close to one or two of them you begin to think that's all there really is. Your view is horrifically distorted.
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