Opinion of Pickup Artists

[Thunderbird is the word]

vote!

[Ebowed]

The worst

[Bacon King]

creeps

[dead0man]

obvious HP is obvious

[free my dawg]

*tips fedora*

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

FFs

[Lief 🗽]

Round them up, put them in camps.

(I will say though, as an impressionable young 18-year-old who was still a virgin, there was something intriguing/appealing about it. Certainly not the whole thing is garbage, just the 99% of it or so. Like the basic idea behind "negging" (which is sort of the go to example for how repulsive PUA is) is fundamentally okay: you should be able to tease women like you do your male friends, not act like a weird overly nice weirdo with them; that's essentially what flirting is in a nutshell. Now, presenting it as negging is a horrible idea, and it's somehow morphed into just insulting women, which comes dangerously close to red pillism (IIRC, Mystery has disowned "negging" as a tactic). Also there is a wide range of PUAs; that Mystery guy is basically just a nerdy magician who taught himself how to flirt like a normal person, while Roosh (or whatever his name is) is literally a psychotic rapist.)

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

creeps

Nice negging

[BaconBacon96]

Scum.

[TheElectoralBoobyPrize]

Round them up, put them in camps.

(I will say though, as an impressionable young 18-year-old who was still a virgin, there was something intriguing/appealing about it. Certainly not the whole thing is garbage, just the 99% of it or so. Like the basic idea behind "negging" (which is sort of the go to example for how repulsive PUA is) is fundamentally okay: you should be able to tease women like you do your male friends, not act like a weird overly nice weirdo with them; that's essentially what flirting is in a nutshell. Now, presenting it as negging is a horrible idea, and it's somehow morphed into just insulting women, which comes dangerously close to red pillism (IIRC, Mystery has disowned "negging" as a tactic). Also there is a wide range of PUAs; that Mystery guy is basically just a nerdy magician who taught himself how to flirt like a normal person, while Roosh (or whatever his name is) is literally a psychotic rapist.)

Well-said. It's probably helpful for Aspies like me to learn the basics of PUA i.e. the introductory stuff, but as a whole, it's pretty much BS. It's fine to improve on your social skills, but you can't be a completely different person just to get women.

And yes some PUA's are worse than others. I consider the columnists at ReturnofKings to be sociopaths, and I would frankly would not care if they all died in a plane crash tomorrow.

[YaBoyNY]

I'm actually really glad to see everyone said HP.

[Thunderbird is the word]

I'm actually really glad to see everyone said HP.

Indeed, a rare consensus

[Marokai Backbeat]

Lief's rare break of character there makes a good point to keep in mind that the concept of the thing is not inherently awful and there's probably something positive to be gleaned from from the wreckage of it (especially, as mentioned, for the people who need that extra guiding hand in social skills or whatever), but obviously how it basically formed a little niche industry and subculture, and the people you will tend to come across that are running that sort of thing, tend way more often than not to be creepy, or as Lief mentioned, outright psychotic.