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« on: May 09, 2015, 03:09:44 PM »

1. 2004
2.1968
3. 2012
4. 2000
5. 1916
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2015, 03:16:43 PM »

1. 2004
2.1968
3. 2012
4. 2000
5. 1916
Is this a rank order? I would rank them 2012, 2008, 1968, 2000, 2004-- with some strong runners up: 1924 (strong progressive movement); 1928 (strong anti-Smith in AL, TN and pro-Smith swing in NY, MA, RI, for obvious reasons), even 1948 if you zero in on congressional districts.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2015, 03:23:02 PM »

I don't think that there was ever a clearer "culture war" contrast then 04, down to Massachussetts vs Texas.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2015, 03:35:54 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2015, 03:39:31 PM by mathstatman »

True, but Kerry was 2.6 years older than Bush, the greatest age "advantage" for a Dem since 1948. The Mass. vs. Texas point is well taken though, as I believe MA threatened to secede if TX were admitted back in the 1840s.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2015, 03:57:51 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2015, 02:24:54 PM by Computer09 »

1. 2004
2.1968
3. 2012
4. 2000
5. 1916
Is this a rank order? I would rank them 2012, 2008, 1968, 2000, 2004-- with some strong runners up: 1924 (strong progressive movement); 1928 (strong anti-Smith in AL, TN and pro-Smith swing in NY, MA, RI, for obvious reasons), even 1948 if you zero in on congressional districts.

Why 2008 , many right wing places such as Indiana , North Carolina voted Obama and Obama almost even won Missouri, and many Republicans voted for Obama that year
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2015, 04:01:47 PM »

1. 2004
2.1968
3. 2012
4. 2000
5. 1916
Is this a rank order? I would rank them 2012, 2008, 1968, 2000, 2004-- with some strong runners up: 1924 (strong progressive movement); 1928 (strong anti-Smith in AL, TN and pro-Smith swing in NY, MA, RI, for obvious reasons), even 1948 if you zero in on congressional districts.

Why 2008 , many right wing places such as Indiana , North Carolina voted Obama and Obama even won Missouri, and many Republicans voted for Obama that year
Because of areas that went for Bush in '00 and '04 that were just as GOP in '08, or more: WV, KY, TN, AR, LA, OK. The fact that population subgroups that voted in the high 80s for Kerry went into the mid-90s for Obama. Cambridge, MA voted 88/10 Obama and King Co, TX voted 4/95 McCain, both records.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2015, 04:48:33 PM »

1. 2004
2. 2012
3. 1976
4. 2000
5. 1916
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2015, 04:53:21 PM »

All right-- I need to know why 1976. Everything I've read seems to point to 1976 as one of the 3 or 4 most uninteresting elections since WWII.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2015, 04:58:48 PM »

All right-- I need to know why 1976. Everything I've read seems to point to 1976 as one of the 3 or 4 most uninteresting elections since WWII.

Because while both candidates were centrists,  it was a sharp contrast of culture, ethics, and personality.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2015, 05:00:29 PM »

All right-- I need to know why 1976. Everything I've read seems to point to 1976 as one of the 3 or 4 most uninteresting elections since WWII.

Because while both candidates were centrists,  it was a sharp contrast of culture, ethics, and personality.
Well said, and a lesson I think to those who say things like "we weren't always this polarized". Yes we were-- perhaps in different ways.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 05:57:49 PM »


I thing 1968 was more polarizing then 1976
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2015, 06:00:05 PM »

All right-- I need to know why 1976. Everything I've read seems to point to 1976 as one of the 3 or 4 most uninteresting elections since WWII.

Because while both candidates were centrists,  it was a sharp contrast of culture, ethics, and personality.
Well said, and a lesson I think to those who say things like "we weren't always this polarized". Yes we were-- perhaps in different ways.

Actually from 1904-1992 none of the elctions except 1916, 1960, 1968, 1976 were polarized
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2015, 08:35:04 PM »


I thing 1968 was more polarizing then 1976

You forget no Wallace means a solid Nixon victory.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2015, 02:13:00 PM »

2000
That election is a major source of the political angst that exists today. Not all of it, but over 50% of it.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2015, 02:14:02 PM »

1. 2004
2.1968
3. 2012
4. 2000
5. 1916
Is this a rank order? I would rank them 2012, 2008, 1968, 2000, 2004-- with some strong runners up: 1924 (strong progressive movement); 1928 (strong anti-Smith in AL, TN and pro-Smith swing in NY, MA, RI, for obvious reasons), even 1948 if you zero in on congressional districts.

Why 2008 , many right wing places such as Indiana , North Carolina voted Obama and Obama even won Missouri, and many Republicans voted for Obama that year

Obama did not win MO and not many GOPers voted for Obama except Kathleen Parker
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2015, 02:25:16 PM »

1. 2004
2.1968
3. 2012
4. 2000
5. 1916
Is this a rank order? I would rank them 2012, 2008, 1968, 2000, 2004-- with some strong runners up: 1924 (strong progressive movement); 1928 (strong anti-Smith in AL, TN and pro-Smith swing in NY, MA, RI, for obvious reasons), even 1948 if you zero in on congressional districts.

Why 2008 , many right wing places such as Indiana , North Carolina voted Obama and Obama even won Missouri, and many Republicans voted for Obama that year

Obama did not win MO and not many GOPers voted for Obama except Kathleen Parker

Forgot the word almost for MO
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2015, 09:41:16 PM »

Actually from 1904-1992 none of the elctions except 1916, 1960, 1968, 1976 were polarized

1948. Democrats vs. Southern Democrats vs. Leftist Democrats vs. Republicans
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2015, 11:22:01 AM »


I thing 1968 was more polarizing then 1976

1976 wasnt polarizing, in fact it was the least polarizing close election. The vote was very close nearly everywhere in the country. 1968 wasnt that polarizing given what was happening in the country. Humphrey wasnt a polarizing candidate.
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2015, 11:24:46 AM »

Question is this: How do voters feel if their choice loses and the other candidate wins? By that measure 1976, is probably the least polarizing. How many Dems truly hated Ford? And Carter was unknown, so hard to hate him. 1972 was far far more polarizing than 1976.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2015, 12:44:18 PM »


I thing 1968 was more polarizing then 1976

1976 wasnt polarizing, in fact it was the least polarizing close election. The vote was very close nearly everywhere in the country. 1968 wasnt that polarizing given what was happening in the country. Humphrey wasnt a polarizing candidate.

Exactly why it was so polarizing.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2015, 01:32:58 PM »


I thing 1968 was more polarizing then 1976

1976 wasnt polarizing, in fact it was the least polarizing close election. The vote was very close nearly everywhere in the country. 1968 wasnt that polarizing given what was happening in the country. Humphrey wasnt a polarizing candidate.

Exactly why it was so polarizing.
Interesting. I always thought an election like 2012, where huge swaths of the country vote one way and huge swaths (or strata or subgroups) vote the other way, was polarizing. Also, what bobloblaw said: how upset are you if your candidate loses?
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2015, 01:50:59 PM »

5. 1992 (Think of the "culture war", Perot, the scandal digging for Clinton even then, and the final results pretty much began the Red-State/Blue-State divide as we know it)
4. 1968 (Between Vietnam from the left, Segregation from the right, and Nixon's character in between this is one that definitely stands out)
3. 2004 (The left were hysterically depressed when Bush won, and there was that "Jesusland" stuff trying to liken Kerry states with Canada. And the campaigns were nasty as heck)
2. 2012 (The right were hysterically depressed when Obama won, and Obama won with less of the EC and Popular vote)
1. 2000 (No explanation needed)
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2015, 07:31:39 PM »

In terms of age groups, I'm pretty sure 2008 was the most polarized ever. 1984-92 on the other hand showed no age polarization at all.
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