UK General Discussion Thread: mayy lmao

[ChrisDR68]

Striking cover to the latest edition of the New Statesman:



Of the 4 Labour leaders depicted here who is the odd one out?

[Phony Moderate]

Blair; the other three were/are all left-wing to varying extents.

But I know what you're (probably) thinking of. Well, I predict that Corbyn will never lose a general election...he'll either be dumped before the next one or win it (the former being more likely, I admit).

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Blair looks the least like a statue, the NS graphics dept. screwed up.

[ChrisDR68]

Blair; the other three were/are all left-wing to varying extents.

But I know what you're (probably) thinking of. Well, I predict that Corbyn will never lose a general election...he'll either be dumped before the next one or win it (the former being more likely, I admit).

Haha

Corbyn is the odd one out.

The other three are the only Labour leaders to have won a majority in the House of Commons.

Was your suspicion correct?

[Phony Moderate]

Yes.

[Oakvale]

Posted on the other place but Corbyn has literally made Seumas "Stalin was unfairly maligned by social traitors" Milne his communications director.

[DC Al Fine]

Posted on the other place but Corbyn has literally made Seamus "Stalin was unfairly maligned by social traitors" Milne his communications director.

I know some people are complaining about how the media is mistreating him but... he's not exactly acting contrary to the stereotype.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Striking cover to the latest edition of the New Statesman:


Of the 4 Labour leaders depicted here who is the odd one out?

People outside of America actually know about Mt. Rushmore? I thought that was just a domestic thing mostly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Striking cover to the latest edition of the New Statesman:


Of the 4 Labour leaders depicted here who is the odd one out?

People outside of America actually know about Mt. Rushmore? I thought that was just a domestic thing mostly.

Nah, it's common knowledge. Most people probably don't know the name, but they've seen/heard about "that mountain with the Presidents' faces on it" somewhere.

[Phony Moderate]

Michael Meacher, the MP for Oldham West and Royton since 1970, has died at the age of 75. He served on the frontbenches for a long time back in the day and was a noted Bennite. He also briefly ran for the leadership in 2007. RIP.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

Striking cover to the latest edition of the New Statesman:


Of the 4 Labour leaders depicted here who is the odd one out?

People outside of America actually know about Mt. Rushmore? I thought that was just a domestic thing mostly.

Nah, it's common knowledge. Most people probably don't know the name, but they've seen/heard about "that mountain with the Presidents' faces on it" somewhere.

For starters, it's  shown, parodied or referenced  in lots of  popular movies abd tv shows

[ChrisDR68]

Striking cover to the latest edition of the New Statesman:


Of the 4 Labour leaders depicted here who is the odd one out?

People outside of America actually know about Mt. Rushmore? I thought that was just a domestic thing mostly.

Nah, it's common knowledge. Most people probably don't know the name, but they've seen/heard about "that mountain with the Presidents' faces on it" somewhere.

Especially (for me at least) if you've seen the movie North By Northwest with Cary Grant. Hitchcock made fine use of the monument is the film's closing scenes.

[Leftbehind]

Michael Meacher, the MP for Oldham West and Royton since 1970, has died at the age of 75. He served on the frontbenches for a long time back in the day and was a noted Bennite. He also briefly ran for the leadership in 2007. RIP.

Sad news, RIP.

[Silent Hunter]

Michael Meacher, the MP for Oldham West and Royton since 1970, has died at the age of 75. He served on the frontbenches for a long time back in the day and was a noted Bennite. He also briefly ran for the leadership in 2007. RIP.

Yes, a real shame. He also appeared in the original Edge of Darkness as himself, you may be interested to know.

RIP.

[warandwar]

Michael Meacher, the MP for Oldham West and Royton since 1970, has died at the age of 75. He served on the frontbenches for a long time back in the day and was a noted Bennite. He also briefly ran for the leadership in 2007. RIP.

Yes, a real shame. He also appeared in the original Edge of Darkness as himself, you may be interested to know.

RIP.

The man giving the speech at the event that the daughter attends in the first episode, right?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The man giving the speech at the event that the daughter attends in the first episode, right?

Thats right, yes.

[Clyde1998]

EVEL passes; Scots, Welsh & NI MPs votes restricted - the union is dead.

[DC Al Fine]

Why can't England or English EU regions just have their own provincial parliament(s)?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Why can't England or English EU regions just have their own provincial parliament(s)?

I would support the latter, but the former is an utterly ridiculous idea. Areas that make up more than 80% of a country's population don't need autonomy.

[Clyde1998]

Why can't England or English EU regions just have their own provincial parliament(s)?

I would support the latter, but the former is an utterly ridiculous idea. Areas that make up more than 80% of a country's population don't need autonomy.

Agreed - I would much prefer regional assemblies across England. Sadly, the North East rejected it in 2004 and it's been forgotten about (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_England_devolution_referendums,_2004).

I should point out that that No vote was smaller than in the Wales devolution vote in 1979.

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Part of the problem is that regions will always be kind of arbitrary. Certainly the official "regions" map won't do.

Also it would have to come with sufficient local government reorganisation, or some areas will have layer upon layer of local governments.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Its a messy issue, but its clear that there's no demand for federalism in England and pretending otherwise is probably not terribly productive. I've argued before that the best solution (or tastiest fudge?) would be to dust off the Redcliffe-Maud report and make appropriate adjustments.

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The prevailing mood around Westminster seems to be for power to be devolved to city-States centred in Bristol, Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle and Liverpool styled along the Greater London model. I would be happy with that, tbh; and I think rural areas could do with simply abolishing district councils entirely, expanding use of parishes in their place, and giving unitaries more power.

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Anyway Carwyn Jones and Leanne Wood have both attacked the draft Wales Bill which, on the one hand, gives the Welsh Assembly power over transport, energy and electoral reform; but on the other apparently gives Westminster some manner of veto power and kind of half-arses the Silk Comission.

[Clyde1998]

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2015/10/another-crack-union

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This is an interesting point - the main reason why the UK has survived so far is that English national identity wasn't that strong. British national identity was much stronger in the past - holding the country together - and it's fading away.