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« Reply #1100 on: March 02, 2017, 09:58:10 AM »

The Conservatives had a lot of their long-servers defeated in the 1997 election, I believe and many of the current party are  2001 or 2005 intake members. So younger. Most of Labour's 1997 intake didn't hold their seats past 2005 and there was of course the mass defeat in Scotland in 2015.

I read Kaufman's How to be a Minister at university. Good book.

The saddest part he never got to become one, as his time on frontbench was during the opposition. Unless of course you'll count his one year under Wilson as the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Environment.
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« Reply #1101 on: March 02, 2017, 09:59:29 AM »

Btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujl0HW7B8nc
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« Reply #1102 on: March 02, 2017, 03:54:58 PM »


...to abolishing the House of Lords? That would be about the best thing a Tory government has ever done.
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« Reply #1103 on: March 02, 2017, 04:19:42 PM »

Unless of course you'll count his one year under Wilson as the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Environment.

Which is the lowest actual ministerial rank of course.
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« Reply #1104 on: March 02, 2017, 04:32:53 PM »


...to abolishing the House of Lords? That would be about the best thing a Tory government has ever done.

As if. Just take a leaf from Cameron's book and stuff it full of more Tories.
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« Reply #1105 on: March 03, 2017, 04:39:23 PM »

An interesting character for sure. RIP.

Following the 2015 general election, four MPs (Kaufman, Meacher, Skinner and Clarke) were tied for the longest continuous service with all having first been elected in 1970. Two of those have since passed away (Meacher of course being the other).

It seems random when the MPs, taking seats on the same day, are being sworn-in. U.S. House uses alphabetical order, but since Kaufman was after Clarke, it must not be a case.

Is there a tie-breaker or just "you snooze you lose?"
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« Reply #1106 on: March 03, 2017, 05:06:27 PM »

According the Theresa May, the SNP have a "tunnel-vision nationalism, which focuses only on independence at any cost, sells Scotland short".

Pot, there is a kettle I would like to introduce you to.
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« Reply #1107 on: March 03, 2017, 05:11:58 PM »
« Edited: March 03, 2017, 05:14:42 PM by Silent Hunter »

An interesting character for sure. RIP.

Following the 2015 general election, four MPs (Kaufman, Meacher, Skinner and Clarke) were tied for the longest continuous service with all having first been elected in 1970. Two of those have since passed away (Meacher of course being the other).

It seems random when the MPs, taking seats on the same day, are being sworn-in. U.S. House uses alphabetical order, but since Kaufman was after Clarke, it must not be a case.

Is there a tie-breaker or just "you snooze you lose?"

Does that make Skinner Father of the House then?

Edit: No, it's Clarke. He was sworn in before hand.
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« Reply #1108 on: March 03, 2017, 05:21:32 PM »

According the Theresa May, the SNP have a "tunnel-vision nationalism, which focuses only on independence at any cost, sells Scotland short".

Pot, there is a kettle I would like to introduce you to.

Given the party was created with the aim of securing Scottish independence... yeah, so what?
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« Reply #1109 on: March 03, 2017, 05:51:21 PM »

According the Theresa May, the SNP have a "tunnel-vision nationalism, which focuses only on independence at any cost, sells Scotland short".

Pot, there is a kettle I would like to introduce you to.

Given the party was created with the aim of securing Scottish independence... yeah, so what?

I was mainly amused by the hypocrisy her saying that
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« Reply #1110 on: March 03, 2017, 06:18:09 PM »

According the Theresa May, the SNP have a "tunnel-vision nationalism, which focuses only on independence at any cost, sells Scotland short".

Pot, there is a kettle I would like to introduce you to.

Given the party was created with the aim of securing Scottish independence... yeah, so what?

I was mainly amused by the hypocrisy her saying that

Yes, it was both hypocritical as well as the other thing.
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« Reply #1111 on: March 15, 2017, 07:10:43 AM »

http://news.sky.com/story/expenses-scandal-tory-mps-say-party-officials-covering-own-backsides-10801909

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So if all 24 people are found to have benefited (hypothetically) - that could get rid of the Conservative majority. Among those Sky News name as being investigated is Craig Mackinlay (Thanet South; who has a majority of 5.7%) and Karl McCartney (Lincoln; who has a majority of 3.1%).
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« Reply #1112 on: March 15, 2017, 10:00:52 AM »

The irony is that they'd most likely call an eelction, and they'd greatly improve their 2015 result
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« Reply #1113 on: March 17, 2017, 02:49:07 PM »

And if these constituencies were declared void by an election court, the expenses limit would be £100 grand per seat for the byelections
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« Reply #1114 on: March 17, 2017, 03:58:57 PM »

Labour are just 2% behind the Greens on the constituency vote with YouGov in Scotland. Labour would theoretically pick up no constituency seats and the wonder of maths (as happened last year) could see them slip into 4th even if they are just ahead of the Greens.
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« Reply #1115 on: March 20, 2017, 10:03:03 AM »

Labour are just 2% behind the Greens on the constituency vote with YouGov in Scotland. Labour would theoretically pick up no constituency seats and the wonder of maths (as happened last year) could see them slip into 4th even if they are just ahead of the Greens.
Is it not the regional vote that the Greens are 2% behind Labor on? As they pick up a lot of SNP constituency voters on the Scottish Parliament list vote.
 
Eitherway, Labour are in the mid-teens now - but only hold Edinburgh South. Labour did gain the equivalent constituency from the SNP in the Scottish Parliament election. The Conservatives won the list vote there - albeit partially due to SNP constituency voters moving to the Greens on the list. #RedMorningside.

The Greens might hypothetically beat Labour on votes; especially if they stood candidates in every constituency. Although they probably won't, as it would split the "independence vote" - a la Edinburgh Central in the Scottish Parliament election.

The local elections this year will be really interesting in regards to the Labour-Green battle for third.
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« Reply #1116 on: March 20, 2017, 10:05:10 AM »

And if these constituencies were declared void by an election court, the expenses limit would be £100 grand per seat for the byelections
£100 grand per seat? That seems a lot for single constituencies.
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« Reply #1117 on: March 20, 2017, 11:42:28 AM »

May is insane not to call a snap election with her party ahead by 15-19 points.
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« Reply #1118 on: March 20, 2017, 12:20:31 PM »

Labour are just 2% behind the Greens on the constituency vote with YouGov in Scotland. Labour would theoretically pick up no constituency seats and the wonder of maths (as happened last year) could see them slip into 4th even if they are just ahead of the Greens.
Is it not the regional vote that the Greens are 2% behind Labor on? As they pick up a lot of SNP constituency voters on the Scottish Parliament list vote.
 
Eitherway, Labour are in the mid-teens now - but only hold Edinburgh South. Labour did gain the equivalent constituency from the SNP in the Scottish Parliament election. The Conservatives won the list vote there - albeit partially due to SNP constituency voters moving to the Greens on the list. #RedMorningside.

The Greens might hypothetically beat Labour on votes; especially if they stood candidates in every constituency. Although they probably won't, as it would split the "independence vote" - a la Edinburgh Central in the Scottish Parliament election.

The local elections this year will be really interesting in regards to the Labour-Green battle for third.

Yes. Sorry typo.
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« Reply #1119 on: March 20, 2017, 01:04:51 PM »

And if these constituencies were declared void by an election court, the expenses limit would be £100 grand per seat for the byelections
£100 grand per seat? That seems a lot for single constituencies.

i suppose it's to make up for the lack of "air game" in a general election, but yes, completely absurd
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« Reply #1120 on: March 20, 2017, 04:49:10 PM »

May is insane not to call a snap election with her party ahead by 15-19 points.

It would look opportunistic and the electorate tends to punish parties than make them go to the polls unnecessarily. Plus assuming the Tories win speculation would swiftly begin about May's successor and when she will step down.
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« Reply #1121 on: March 20, 2017, 04:53:31 PM »

Remember also that it is not easy to actually call a snap election now; messy parliamentary manoeuvring is required.
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« Reply #1122 on: March 20, 2017, 07:31:54 PM »

The Fixed Terms Parliament Act is an abomination

Anyway, I note that A50 is being trigged on March 29th - the anniversary of the Battle of Towton, probably the biggest and most violent battle in English history.
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« Reply #1123 on: March 20, 2017, 07:40:25 PM »

Still, didn't Corbyn and senior Labour figures support the idea of an early election? I believe one can be called if it has the support of 2/3rd's of the House of Commons, and even with revolts Labour and the Conservatives shouldn't really struggle to hit that target.
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« Reply #1124 on: March 20, 2017, 07:47:54 PM »

May is insane not to call a snap election with her party ahead by 15-19 points.

It would look opportunistic and the electorate tends to punish parties than make them go to the polls unnecessarily. Plus assuming the Tories win speculation would swiftly begin about May's successor and when she will step down.
Anything can change, might as well call an election when you're ahead. Callaghan and Brown should be lessons for May
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