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« Reply #1125 on: March 20, 2017, 01:04:51 pm »
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And if these constituencies were declared void by an election court, the expenses limit would be 100 grand per seat for the byelections
100 grand per seat? That seems a lot for single constituencies.

i suppose it's to make up for the lack of "air game" in a general election, but yes, completely absurd
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« Reply #1126 on: March 20, 2017, 04:49:10 pm »
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May is insane not to call a snap election with her party ahead by 15-19 points.

It would look opportunistic and the electorate tends to punish parties than make them go to the polls unnecessarily. Plus assuming the Tories win speculation would swiftly begin about May's successor and when she will step down.
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« Reply #1127 on: March 20, 2017, 04:53:31 pm »
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Remember also that it is not easy to actually call a snap election now; messy parliamentary manoeuvring is required.
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« Reply #1128 on: March 20, 2017, 07:31:54 pm »
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The Fixed Terms Parliament Act is an abomination

Anyway, I note that A50 is being trigged on March 29th - the anniversary of the Battle of Towton, probably the biggest and most violent battle in English history.
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« Reply #1129 on: March 20, 2017, 07:40:25 pm »
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Still, didn't Corbyn and senior Labour figures support the idea of an early election? I believe one can be called if it has the support of 2/3rd's of the House of Commons, and even with revolts Labour and the Conservatives shouldn't really struggle to hit that target.
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« Reply #1130 on: March 20, 2017, 07:47:54 pm »
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May is insane not to call a snap election with her party ahead by 15-19 points.

It would look opportunistic and the electorate tends to punish parties than make them go to the polls unnecessarily. Plus assuming the Tories win speculation would swiftly begin about May's successor and when she will step down.
Anything can change, might as well call an election when you're ahead. Callaghan and Brown should be lessons for May
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« Reply #1131 on: March 21, 2017, 01:41:40 am »
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Martin McGuinness, former Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland and former SF leader, died.
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« Reply #1132 on: March 21, 2017, 02:08:22 am »

Martin McGuinness, former Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland and former SF leader, died.

Northern Ireland system od dual executive is amazing. It'd be like having Trump as First Minister and Hillary as Deputy First Minister.
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« Reply #1133 on: March 21, 2017, 10:53:54 am »
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Martin McGuinness, former Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland and former SF leader, died.
RIP. A good man in spite of his past.
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« Reply #1134 on: March 21, 2017, 03:11:16 pm »
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Lots of talk about calling an early election by May in May
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« Reply #1135 on: March 21, 2017, 03:23:32 pm »
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« Reply #1136 on: March 21, 2017, 03:58:17 pm »
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Martin McGuinness, former Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland and former SF leader, died.

Northern Ireland system od dual executive is amazing. It'd be like having Trump as First Minister and Hillary as Deputy First Minister.

From an American perspective, historically, more like having George Wallace as First Minister and Malcolm X as Deputy First Minister.
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« Reply #1137 on: March 21, 2017, 04:03:03 pm »
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Downing Street is sticking to its line regarding an early election. Apparently some Tory MPs in Cornwall and Devon are terrified of losing their seats. If she changes her mind then it'll have to be within the next two weeks anyway.
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« Reply #1138 on: March 21, 2017, 04:32:43 pm »
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Downing Street is sticking to its line regarding an early election. Apparently some Tory MPs in Cornwall and Devon are terrified of losing their seats. If she changes her mind then it'll have to be within the next two weeks anyway.

I would've thought the 2015 intake from old Lib Dem seats in South London (and places like Bath) would have far more to worry about from an election fought on the EU than those in Devon and Cornwall.
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« Reply #1139 on: March 21, 2017, 07:45:15 pm »
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Help an ignorant guy out: If an early election were held this year, for example, would the next scheduled election still be 2020 or would it be 2022? Common sense tells me the latter, but could someone confirm?
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« Reply #1140 on: March 21, 2017, 08:00:06 pm »
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Help an ignorant guy out: If an early election were held this year, for example, would the next scheduled election still be 2020 or would it be 2022? Common sense tells me the latter, but could someone confirm?
It would be five years after the early general election.  The 2020 date only assumes the current parliament is carried to term.
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« Reply #1141 on: March 21, 2017, 08:04:04 pm »
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what are the odds of a snap election, according to the british posters? Also, does it have to be in May?
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« Reply #1142 on: March 21, 2017, 08:48:29 pm »
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Downing Street is sticking to its line regarding an early election. Apparently some Tory MPs in Cornwall and Devon are terrified of losing their seats. If she changes her mind then it'll have to be within the next two weeks anyway.

I would've thought the 2015 intake from old Lib Dem seats in South London (and places like Bath) would have far more to worry about from an election fought on the EU than those in Devon and Cornwall.

Yes the most likely Lib Dem gains from the Tories would be Bath, Twickenham and Kingston. The two Devon seats the Lib Dems lost to the Tories, Torbay and North Devon (both were very pro-Brexit), would probably see a further swing to the Tories in a general election held today. Cornwall is a more unpredictable place because it has a separate identity from the rest of England which makes it more amenable to the Lib Dems so they'd probably have a shot at regaining St Ives but that's it.
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« Reply #1143 on: March 21, 2017, 08:58:08 pm »
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what are the odds of a snap election, according to the british posters? Also, does it have to be in May?

Not at all likely. The only thing that could conceivably cause it would be the Tories being found guilty of deliberately overspending in 20+ marginal constituencies triggering a huge number of by-elections. With her majority potentially gone May probably would call a general election. However the prospect of results being voided in that many seats (I doubt a single one will be voided) is very, very small.
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« Reply #1144 on: March 21, 2017, 09:06:29 pm »
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Help an ignorant guy out: If an early election were held this year, for example, would the next scheduled election still be 2020 or would it be 2022? Common sense tells me the latter, but could someone confirm?

It would be held in 2022 as the Fixed-term Parliament Act of 2011 mandates that a parliament elected in 2017 will sit for 5 years barring a vote of no confidence in the government or a 2/3 majority calling for an early election.
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« Reply #1145 on: March 22, 2017, 10:14:59 am »
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Shots fired outside Parliament. A police officer apparently stabbed.
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« Reply #1146 on: March 22, 2017, 10:43:39 am »
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Shots fired outside Parliament. A police officer apparently stabbed.
It's being treated as a terrorist incident by the Met. Exactly one year after the attack in Brussels as well.
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« Reply #1147 on: March 22, 2017, 11:05:32 am »
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Shots fired outside Parliament. A police officer apparently stabbed.
It's being treated as a terrorist incident by the Met. Exactly one year after the attack in Brussels as well.

Also of people being run down by a vehicle on Westminster Bridge, which appears to have been part of the same attack.
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« Reply #1148 on: March 22, 2017, 11:11:55 am »
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Terrifying that I could have been working in the House of Commons this week; I hear Westminster is still on lockdown
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« Reply #1149 on: March 22, 2017, 11:38:14 am »
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Terrifying that I could have been working in the House of Commons this week; I hear Westminster is still on lockdown
Yeah. Sky are saying that people that were on the London Eye were being kept on it, as well.

Sky saying that two people have been confirmed dead.
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