UK General Discussion Thread: mayy lmao

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The new ShadCab is entirely temporary of course. And the new Cabinet is basically dogsh!t, but that's to be expected.

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Considering that the media are now bored of him and had been hinting throughout the election that if he lost in South Thanet they would regard him as a failure... is that... um... wise?

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If the Tories are serious about legalising fox hunting that is excellent news. Promising to ban it is a proven vote winner for Labour, don't forget!

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There's fair arguments against the modernisers' response

I think it's time to take that word away from them. 1995 was twenty years ago.

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Senior Conservatives said they were “furious at the BBC’s coverage” of the election campaign and accused the corporation of an “unforgivable pro-Labour bias”.

Fycking hilarious. The only bias was in the other direction. But suck it up BBC; being supine gets you nowhere with people who hate you for your very existence.

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Carswell and UKIP officials are having a bit of a row about money

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What the hell

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lmao

They really need to get over their insecurity issues.

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It's not really a resign-your-seat matter (i.e. as it was just the leaking of eighth hand gossip and not even a proper smear or anything), even if it would most certainly be a resign-your-ministerial-post matter (i.e. because he was amateurish enough to caught caught. Christ, he was amateurish enough to get as good as caught by logical deduction even before the inquiry reported).

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He denied that he was the source of the leak - leading to a £1.4m investigation, to find that he was the source of the leak. I wonder if he would've been elected if he'd said he leaked it before the election - his majority is only 800(ish).

I think he should resign from his seat - it was a confidential memo that was leaked.

If politicians were to resign their seats every time that they leaked something... oh dear

Don't get me wrong here: I'm not defending him! It was a moronic decision - almost certainly counterproductive actually - and he deserves all the embarrassment and opprobrium that has come to him as a result.

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Carmichael isn't getting his ministerial severance package; given that it's over £30k that's a fair old fine for being an idiot. Deserved as well.

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On what basis?

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Worked with Phil Woolas last time.

Completely different situation: he included knowingly and provably false claims on his official election literature.

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I think we can all cheerfully ignore voting intention polls for the time being.

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Yeah, this is really sad.

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Yes, people can't help themselves sometimes can they. Makes a bit of a mockery of some of the 'respectful tributes'.

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ABC1C2DE is to it's merit one of the best measures of 'class' so much so that the Census has adopted what was initially a simple market research technique.

Actually no. The preferred census categories are NS-SEC and the Occupation Groups scale; estimates for the NRS system are made, but only because there's demand for them. Much of the attachment to them comes from the ease with which firm-looking class labels can be attached, which is a bit dubious in a service-sector driven economy.

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Sir Nicholas Winton, the socialist stockbroker who saved 669 children from the Nazis, has died aged 106.

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People tend not to respond well to arguments made in bad faith, no. I have no idea why.

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So anyway. Salford.

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Best thing is that this is literally the first time that most people will have ever heard of him.

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The BBC has a little article up called 'Who Was Ted Heath' and it includes this photo in the context of the February 1974 election:



But it doesn't mention who the people in it are, which detracts from the meaning if you don't actually know. The man with the hat is Joe Gormley (NUM President) and the man with the glasses is Mick McGahey (NUM Vice President).

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I think if you're surprised that the SNP put forward a populist policy then I don't think you've been paying attention.

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Staple food was oats of course.

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Full list here. The name that leaps out is Douglas 'moat' Hogg...

But mostly its the standard list of retired and/or defeated politicians plus government placemen.