MS-Gov: Trent Lott for governor in 2019?

[Suburbia]

The former Mississippi senator and lobbyist is thinking about running for governor in 2019, and could possibly win. Thoughts?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/governor-races/241556-trent-lott-not-ruling-out-gubernatorial-bid
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/09/trent-lott-governor/27055227/

[Maxwell]

the Mississippi good-old-boy network would allow him to win should he desire it, but I doubt he's really that interested.

[smoltchanov]

the Mississippi good-old-boy network would allow him to win should he desire it, but I doubt he's really that interested.

He will be 78 by 2019. Isn't it slightly too old for freshman governor?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

The blacks will surely carry him over the hump in his advanced age even as whites begin to revolt against the GOP. They've always helped him out.

/loblaw'd

[Free Bird]

Maybe in 2011 but not now

[Indy Texas]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

[smoltchanov]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

Well, if they will quarrel too much it may be Chris McDaniel wing of the GOP, which prevails. At least - temporarily..

[IceSpear]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

I thought Bryant was part of that wing.

[ElectionsGuy]

Isn't he already in his 70's?

[TDAS04]

I doubt it.

[Miles]

I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed, and he has a plush lobbying gig now.

[RFayette]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

I thought Bryant was part of that wing.

Yeah Bryant is not that conservative...

[Maxwell]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

I thought Bryant was part of that wing.

Yeah Bryant is not that conservative...

And are we really including TRENT LOTT as a part of the "good" category? The man is utterly vile.

[IceSpear]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

I thought Bryant was part of that wing.

Yeah Bryant is not that conservative...

And are we really including TRENT LOTT as a part of the "good" category? The man is utterly vile.

Standards are much lower in Mississippi, you see.

[Maxwell]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

I thought Bryant was part of that wing.

Yeah Bryant is not that conservative...

And are we really including TRENT LOTT as a part of the "good" category? The man is utterly vile.

Standards are much lower in Mississippi, you see.

I understand that when I say that Trent Lott is an utterly vile.

[RINO Tom]

I really don't understand how MS Dems can't scrounge together a candidate who can squeak out a win more or less running as an old school Southern Democrat.  With such a large Black population, all he'd need to do is win like 30% of Whites, right?  There's no way a coalition of old Dixiecrats who are about to die plus some poor Whites can't get near 30%...

[smoltchanov]

I really don't understand how MS Dems can't scrounge together a candidate who can squeak out a win more or less running as an old school Southern Democrat.  With such a large Black population, all he'd need to do is win like 30% of Whites, right?  There's no way a coalition of old Dixiecrats who are about to die plus some poor Whites can't get near 30%...

Vast majority of "old school Southern Democrats", who are still politically active in Mississippi, are now Republicans. The same with political officeholders of this type. I counted more then dozen Republican legislators who began their career as conservative Democrats. And remaining Democratic white officeholders are, usually, "not conservative enough" for these people (in addition: they have difficulties of winning frequently Black- and liberal- dominated Democratic primaries. To win primary you, usually, must be at least somewhat left-of-center on something, but that dooms you in general)

[Vega]

That's pretty curious. I don't know why he's running; he'll probably end up like Dan Coats and retire after one term.

[publicunofficial]

I really don't understand how MS Dems can't scrounge together a candidate who can squeak out a win more or less running as an old school Southern Democrat.  With such a large Black population, all he'd need to do is win like 30% of Whites, right?  There's no way a coalition of old Dixiecrats who are about to die plus some poor Whites can't get near 30%...

Generally the only way to attract those extra 20% of whites to the Democratic Party again would be moving heavily to the right, which would in turn decrease black turnout. That wouldn't even be enough, because if you want a conservative governor, why not just vote Republican? It would require a Republican candidate that was bad enough that people want an alternative.

[RINO Tom]

I really don't understand how MS Dems can't scrounge together a candidate who can squeak out a win more or less running as an old school Southern Democrat.  With such a large Black population, all he'd need to do is win like 30% of Whites, right?  There's no way a coalition of old Dixiecrats who are about to die plus some poor Whites can't get near 30%...

Generally the only way to attract those extra 20% of whites to the Democratic Party again would be moving heavily to the right, which would in turn decrease black turnout. That wouldn't even be enough, because if you want a conservative governor, why not just vote Republican? It would require a Republican candidate that was bad enough that people want an alternative.

Right, but most non-biased people could agree that the old Dixiecrats were only really conservatives compared to the national Democratic Party; they certainly weren't as conservative, especially on fiscal issues, as the current crop of Southern Republicans are.  I question whether a socially conservative, fiscally moderate-to-populist Southern Democrat would decrease Black turnout that much, but I'd need someone more well-versed in local MS politics to correct me if I'm wrong.  It literally worked for decades.

[IceSpear]

Can't Dems win MS with even less than 30% of the white vote?

[gespb19]

I really don't understand how MS Dems can't scrounge together a candidate who can squeak out a win more or less running as an old school Southern Democrat.  With such a large Black population, all he'd need to do is win like 30% of Whites, right?  There's no way a coalition of old Dixiecrats who are about to die plus some poor Whites can't get near 30%...

MS Dems have a few guys who could win a gubernatorial race (or even a Senate race, given the right circumstances). The problem is that none of them will run. Although I think Brandon Presley could run in 2019.

As for Lott, I don't see him running in '19. The GOP nominee will probably be Reeves (lieutenant governor) or some Tea Party nut like McDaniel, Michael Watson, or Chris Brown.

[gespb19]

I hope someone from the Barbour-Lott-Cochran wing of the MS GOP can seize back control of the state house from Phil Bryant's True Believers.

I thought Bryant was part of that wing.

Yeah Bryant is not that conservative...

Bryant is pretty darn conservative but he's not part of the McDaniel wing. But I'd say he's to the right of Barbour, Cochran, etc

[gespb19]

I really don't understand how MS Dems can't scrounge together a candidate who can squeak out a win more or less running as an old school Southern Democrat.  With such a large Black population, all he'd need to do is win like 30% of Whites, right?  There's no way a coalition of old Dixiecrats who are about to die plus some poor Whites can't get near 30%...

Generally the only way to attract those extra 20% of whites to the Democratic Party again would be moving heavily to the right, which would in turn decrease black turnout. That wouldn't even be enough, because if you want a conservative governor, why not just vote Republican? It would require a Republican candidate that was bad enough that people want an alternative.

Right, but most non-biased people could agree that the old Dixiecrats were only really conservatives compared to the national Democratic Party; they certainly weren't as conservative, especially on fiscal issues, as the current crop of Southern Republicans are.  I question whether a socially conservative, fiscally moderate-to-populist Southern Democrat would decrease Black turnout that much, but I'd need someone more well-versed in local MS politics to correct me if I'm wrong.  It literally worked for decades.

I should have linked this article with my other comments. The guy discussed in the WaPo story below was the 2007 Democratic candidate for governor. He is very similar to the type of candidate that you are talking about.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702044.html

[smoltchanov]

I really don't understand how MS Dems can't scrounge together a candidate who can squeak out a win more or less running as an old school Southern Democrat.  With such a large Black population, all he'd need to do is win like 30% of Whites, right?  There's no way a coalition of old Dixiecrats who are about to die plus some poor Whites can't get near 30%...

Generally the only way to attract those extra 20% of whites to the Democratic Party again would be moving heavily to the right, which would in turn decrease black turnout. That wouldn't even be enough, because if you want a conservative governor, why not just vote Republican? It would require a Republican candidate that was bad enough that people want an alternative.

Right, but most non-biased people could agree that the old Dixiecrats were only really conservatives compared to the national Democratic Party; they certainly weren't as conservative, especially on fiscal issues, as the current crop of Southern Republicans are.  I question whether a socially conservative, fiscally moderate-to-populist Southern Democrat would decrease Black turnout that much, but I'd need someone more well-versed in local MS politics to correct me if I'm wrong.  It literally worked for decades.

I should have linked this article with my other comments. The guy discussed in the WaPo story below was the 2007 Democratic candidate for governor. He is very similar to the type of candidate that you are talking about.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702044.html

Yes, but even him got only slightly above 42% against Barbour. That's better then DuPree's 39% against Bryant, but not by much..And, generally, since 1999 Democrats lose 3-4% in each next governor race..