Most underrated Presidents? Most overrated?

[Dazey]

Who do you guys feel were the most underrated Presidents, and the most overrated?

For me:

Overrated:
1) JFK
2) Reagan
3) Coolidge (at least among right wingers)
4) Clinton
5) Truman (handled the end of WW2 the way anyone would have, started the Cold War, had a terrible second term)

Underrated:
1) Polk (the last great President until Lincoln)
2) Monroe (generally forgotten as a President despite being the father of the Constitution)
3) Johnson (remembered more for Vietnam than the Great Society)
4) Ford (did a good job given the circumstances he was thrust into)
5) Grant (his record on civil rights alone places him IMO in the top tier. Sadly, he's only remembered for his scandals)

[OSR stands with Israel]

Who do you guys feel were the most underrated Presidents, and the most overrated?

For me:

Overrated:
1) JFK
2) Reagan
3) Coolidge (at least among right wingers)
4) Clinton
5) Truman (handled the end of WW2 the way anyone would have, started the Cold War, had a terrible second term)

Underrated:
1) Polk (the last great President until Lincoln)
2) Monroe (generally forgotten as a President despite being the father of the Constitution)
3) Johnson (remembered more for Vietnam than the Great Society)
4) Ford (did a good job given the circumstances he was thrust into)
5) Grant (his record on civil rights alone places him IMO in the top tier. Sadly, he's only remembered for his scandals)

Overrated:
1. JFK(This is for sure)
2. Jackson ( Fondly remebered for War of 1812 hero but as president he wasnt that good 1937 crises, and trail of tears)
3. McKinely(Really gets credit for gettting America reconized as world power when it should be Teddy Roosevelt)
4. Wilson(Royally messed up the end of WW1, sedition acts 1917, racist)
5. Madison(Great Sec OF State but nearly got America destroyed in the War of 1812)

Underrated

1. Grant(Scandals destroyed his amazing civil rights legacy)
2. Nixon(Watergate destroyed his Amazing Forign Policy Legacy: Opening up relations with China which was a huge blow to the soviets, End of Vietnam, then started EPA)
3.  Quincy Adams( First Pro Civil Rights president)
4. HW Bush( One term president but brought peaceful end to cold war, ended gulf war perfectly)
5. Truman

[Türkisblau]

Overrated:

1. Jefferson
2. Madison
3. Monroe
4. Reagan
5. Grant

Underrated:

1. Carter
2. Polk
3. Wilson
4. LBJ
5. van Buren

[Orser67]

Overrated:
1) Reagan: this largely depends on your opinion of current domestic politics, though I also think that many give him too much credit for the USSR collapsing
2) JFK
3) Andrew Johnson: should be more reviled
4) Madison: Good Founding Father, great civil servant, mediocre president
5) Clinton: Right place, right time
6) T. Roosevelt: A good president, but I think he tends to get overrated since he's so memorable

Underrated:
1) Polk
2) Lyndon Johnson
3) Fillmore: the one Whig of any consequence
4) Carter
5) Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, and B. Harrison

[Orser67]

Overrated:
1) Reagan: this largely depends on your opinion of current domestic politics, though I also think that many give him too much credit for the USSR collapsing
2) JFK
3) Andrew Johnson: should be more reviled
4) Madison: Good Founding Father, great civil servant, mediocre president
5) Clinton: Right place, right time
6) T. Roosevelt: A good president, but I think he tends to get overrated since he's so memorable

Underrated:
1) Polk
2) Lyndon Johnson
3) Fillmore: the one Whig of any consequence
4) Carter
5) Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, and B. Harrison

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Overrated:

1) Woodrow Wilson - his 'progressive reforms' would have passed anyway without him, he entered a stupid war and disasterously micromanaged it, passed the Seditions Act, presided over a terrible peace conference and he segregated the military/civil service.

2) teddy Roosevelt - a self-promoting thug who reapropriated "Progressive" messages in order to perpetuate his hideous imperialist side.

3) LBJ - "Muh legacy is more important than Vietnamese kids". A vile bully behind closed doors.

4) Andrew Jackson - less of a great man and more of a hideous consequence of previous administration' indifference to the ordinary man; Jackson committed genocide, corrupted the civil service, broke the power of the Corrupt Bank only to redirect its power to a different set of elites and caused economic collapse.

5) Eisenhower - "hey if I stick around and do nothing to control the CIA/FBI/military run riot beneath me, people will still like me because I built some roads right?"

Also: Clinton, Reagan, JFK, Nixon (by a certain type of individual), Madison, Adams Sr, van Buren (on this forum)

Underrated:

1) Chester Arthur - yes I know - Gilded Age. But not a bad POTUS despite the era.

2) Obama - has made a great crack at difficult circumstances.

3) Harding - a corrupt idiot, but passed some good initiatives against lynching. (Compare and contrast to the intelligent but disgusting Wilson.

4 Zachory Taylor - OK, he killed himself by eating too many grapes, which is embarrassing; but he came closer to taking a clear stance against the expansion of Slavery than he had any right to be. Shame about those grapes.

5) Grant - defeated the KKK terrorists = FF

Maybe also Cleveland for his more cautious foreign policy.

[SWE]

Grant is criminally underrated. JQA, MVB, Zachary Taylor, and Harding too.

Rondald Reagan is the most overrated, along with Wilson, Polk, Truman, and JFK.

[TNF]

FDR is the most overrated President, long with JFK, Reagan, Wilson, and H.W. Bush.

Harding is seriously underrated. Sure, he was a corrupt SOB, but he also took a firm stance against lynching, pardoned Eugene Debs, and negotiated an end to World War I.

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Who rates Bush Sr highly?

[traininthedistance]

Most overrated = Andrew Jackson.  Genocidal, racist maniac with disastrously crankish economic policies that caused the worst crash in American history.  And the expansion of the franchise that people credit him with was happening anyway.

Most underrated = John Quincy Adams.  A good man with good smarts and good morals.  Bravely stood up to the Slave Power when it was unfashionable to do so, literally everything good about Monroe's presidency came from his term as SoS, and while he was frustrated in his attempts to implement the American System, it was the right idea for the time.  (The tariffs look not-so-great from a distance, but infrastructure spending is important dammit, and it was especially important back then.)

[traininthedistance]

4 Zachory Taylor - OK, he killed himself by eating too many grapes, which is embarrassing; but he came closer to taking a clear stance against the expansion of Slavery than he had any right to be. Shame about those grapes.

The idea that he was actually poisoned by traitorous Southrons is one of the few conspiracy theories I actually take seriously.  Definitely a good choice for "underrated".

[Mr. Smith]

Reagan's overrated, Carter's underrated

[The Dowager Mod]

Overrated:
Reagan
Grant
Polk
T Roosevelt
Jackson

Underrated
Carter
Adams
Truman
Monroe
Tyler

[TDAS04]

Overrated:
Wilson
TR
Reagan

Underrated:
Grant
Taft
Carter

[Sumner 1868]

Underrated:

Grant
Garfield

The rest are overrated, with TR really taking the cake.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

4 Zachory Taylor - OK, he killed himself by eating too many grapes, which is embarrassing; but he came closer to taking a clear stance against the expansion of Slavery than he had any right to be. Shame about those grapes.

The idea that he was actually poisoned by traitorous Southrons is one of the few conspiracy theories I actually take seriously.  Definitely a good choice for "underrated".

Except it's not true. Back in the 90's they performed an autopsy on him (somehow his body was still formed enough despite being dead nearly 150 years) and disproved the theory. He wasn't poisoned.

[TNF]

Who rates Bush Sr highly?

Atlas Forum

[WalterMitty]

underrated:
w. bush
mckinley
wilson

overrated:
fdr
jfk
eisenhower
reagan
obama

[H. Ross Peron]

Over:
1. JFK
2. Reagan
3. A. Jackson
4. Madison (Considering he almost destroyed the United States)
5. Clinton

Under:
1. Polk
2. LBJ
3. Truman
4. Grant
5. C.A. Arthur

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

Underrated:
LBJ
Grant
Arthur
Carter

Overrated:
Reagan
Coolidge
Hayes

[OSR stands with Israel]

FDR is the most overrated President, long with JFK, Reagan, Wilson, and H.W. Bush.

Harding is seriously underrated. Sure, he was a corrupt SOB, but he also took a firm stance against lynching, pardoned Eugene Debs, and negotiated an end to World War I.

FDR is not overrated, he saved Amercia from Facism, Communist Revoultion, and Turned America into and Economic  superpower

[OSR stands with Israel]

Underrated:

Grant
Garfield

The rest are overrated, with TR really taking the cake.

TR why

[SWE]

FDR is the most overrated President, long with JFK, Reagan, Wilson, and H.W. Bush.

Harding is seriously underrated. Sure, he was a corrupt SOB, but he also took a firm stance against lynching, pardoned Eugene Debs, and negotiated an end to World War I.

FDR is not overrated, he saved Amercia from Facism, Communist Revoultion, and Turned America into and Economic  superpower

TIL FDR was president in the 1880s

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

FDR is the most overrated President, long with JFK, Reagan, Wilson, and H.W. Bush.

Harding is seriously underrated. Sure, he was a corrupt SOB, but he also took a firm stance against lynching, pardoned Eugene Debs, and negotiated an end to World War I.

FDR is not overrated, he saved Amercia from Facism, Communist Revoultion, and Turned America into and Economic  superpower

TIL FDR was president in the 1880s

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[FEMA Camp Administrator]

FDR is the most overrated President, long with JFK, Reagan, Wilson, and H.W. Bush.

Harding is seriously underrated. Sure, he was a corrupt SOB, but he also took a firm stance against lynching, pardoned Eugene Debs, and negotiated an end to World War I.

FDR is not overrated, he saved Amercia from Facism, Communist Revoultion, and Turned America into and Economic  superpower

TIL FDR was president in the 1880s

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