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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 18, 2015, 06:40:49 PM »

the democrats need to throw everything they've got at the HOR. I had always thought the 230-odd seats the republicans held after 1994 should be a highwater mark. There's no reason the dems shouldn't be holding as many seats as they did after 1994.

I'm starting to think that the DCCC is turning into the way the RNCC was under Guy Vanderjagt.

Yeah.  Just seeing what happened in NY-11 confirms that thinking.  You don't leave a seat that your party won in the last Presidential election basically uncontested. 

If Dems can't win some key governorships in 2018 and force fair maps in PA, MI, WI, VA, and OH in 2021, next decade will be just like this one for Dems in the House.

This all goes back to the DNC's decision under Obama in 2009 to abandon focus on the grassroots level and simply turn the organization into an Obama reelection organization.  This led to Democrats not having any support at the grassroots level and they lost many state legislative chambers that they should have been able to hold even in 2010.

It seems like a lot of Dems in Washington are OK being a White House only party like the Republicans were from 1968-1992.  It seems to suit them.just fine.
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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,546


« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 07:58:58 PM »

the democrats need to throw everything they've got at the HOR. I had always thought the 230-odd seats the republicans held after 1994 should be a highwater mark. There's no reason the dems shouldn't be holding as many seats as they did after 1994.

I'm starting to think that the DCCC is turning into the way the RNCC was under Guy Vanderjagt.

Yeah.  Just seeing what happened in NY-11 confirms that thinking.  You don't leave a seat that your party won in the last Presidential election basically uncontested. 

If Dems can't win some key governorships in 2018 and force fair maps in PA, MI, WI, VA, and OH in 2021, next decade will be just like this one for Dems in the House.

This all goes back to the DNC's decision under Obama in 2009 to abandon focus on the grassroots level and simply turn the organization into an Obama reelection organization.  This led to Democrats not having any support at the grassroots level and they lost many state legislative chambers that they should have been able to hold even in 2010.

It seems like a lot of Dems in Washington are OK being a White House only party like the Republicans were from 1968-1992.  It seems to suit them.just fine.

Except they literally did leave a seat they won uncontested in Florida.

They sure did.
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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 08:38:33 PM »

Dont plan on Dems needing to lose; we enjoy the presidency too much. And winning senate seats ang govs mansions are still plausible; despite minority status in House.

What's good about the Presidency if you can't do anything with it?  Sure, the President can issue executive orders, but congress can just chose not to fund to enforce them.
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