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« on: May 16, 2015, 07:11:19 PM »

Im putting 5 categories

Completely Justified, Justified, Mixed, Unjustified, War Criminal

American Revoultion- Completely Justified
Barbary Wars- Justified
War of 1812- Justified
Indian Wars- War Criminal(all of them)
Mexican American war- Mixed
Civil War- Completely Justified
Spanish American War- Unjustified
Philippine  American War- War Criminal
World War 1- Mixed
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Completely Justified
World War 2(European War) Completely Justified
Korean War- Justified
Bay of Pigs- Unjustified
Vietnam War- Unjustified
Gulf War- Justified
Somalia- Mixed
Bosnia- Mixed
Kosovo- Justified
Afganistan- Justified at first but become unjustified in the nation building stage so mixed
Iraq- Unjustified
War vs ISIS- Justified



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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2015, 07:33:49 PM »
« Edited: May 16, 2015, 08:07:59 PM by ElectionsGuy »

American Revolution - Completely Justified
Barbary Wars - Mixed
War of 1812 - Unjustified
All Indian Wars - War Criminal
Mexican American War - War Criminal
Civil War - Justified
Spanish American War - Unjustified
Philippine American War - War Criminal
World War I - Unjustified
World War II (Pacific) - Completely Justified
World War II (Europe) - Justified
Korean War - Unjustified
Vietnam War - Unjustified
Gulf War - Unjustified
Afghanistan - Mixed
Iraq - War Criminal
ISIS - Unjustified
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2015, 07:51:33 PM »

American Revolution - Completely Justified
Barbary Wars - Neutral
War of 1812 - Unjustified
All Indian Wars - Criminal
Mexican American War - Criminal
Civil War - Completely Justified
Spanish American War - Unjustified
Philippine American War - Criminal
World War I - Unjustified
World War II (Pacific) -  Justified
World War II (Europe) - Justified
Korean War - Criminal
Vietnam War - Criminal
Gulf War - Criminal
Afghanistan - Criminal
Iraq - Criminal
ISIS - Criminal
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2015, 08:36:06 PM »


American Revolution - Completely Justified
Barbary Wars - Neutral
War of 1812 - Unjustified
All Indian Wars - Criminal
Mexican American War - Criminal
Civil War - Completely Justified
Spanish American War - Unjustified
Philippine American War - Criminal
World War I - Unjustified
World War II (Pacific) - Completely Justified
World War II (Europe) - Justified
Korean War - Mixed
Vietnam War - Criminal
Gulf War - Criminal
Afghanistan - Justified
Iraq - Criminal
ISIS - Criminal
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2015, 09:30:11 PM »
« Edited: May 17, 2015, 11:45:45 AM by vivaportugalhabs »

American Revolution- Completely Justified
Barbary Wars- Justified
War of 1812- Unjustified
Indian Wars- War Criminal
Mexican American war- Unjustified
Civil War- Completely Justified
Spanish American War- Mixed
Philippine  American War- War Criminal
World War 1- Justified
World War 2(Pacific)- Completely Justified
World War 2(European)- Completely Justified
Korean War- Justified
Bay of Pigs- Mixed
Vietnam War- War Criminal (at least in terms of methodology)
Gulf War- Mixed
Somalia- Justified
Bosnia- Justified
Kosovo- Justified
Afganistan- Mixed
Iraq- Unjustified Oops meant to put Criminal
War vs ISIS- Mixed (With drone strikes as a major focus, I'd say justified, but "advisers" make it mixed)
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2015, 09:31:08 PM »

American Revoultion- Completely Justified
Barbary Wars- Completely Justified
War of 1812- Completely Justified
Indian Wars- Criminal
Mexican American war- Justified
Civil War- Completely Justified
Spanish American War- Mixed
Philippine  American War- Criminal
World War 1- Mixed
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Completely Justified
World War 2(European War) Completely Justified
Korean War- Justified
Bay of Pigs- Criminal
Vietnam War- Criminal
Gulf War- Mixed
Somalia- Mixed
Bosnia- Justified
Kosovo- Justified
Afganistan- Completely Justified
Iraq- Criminal
War vs ISIS- Mixed
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2015, 10:22:01 PM »

American Revoultion- Completely Justified
Barbary Wars- Justified
War of 1812- Mixed
Indian Wars- Mixed (Depends on particular conflict)
Mexican American war- Justified
Civil War- Completely Justified
Spanish American War- Unjustified
Philippine  American War- Completely Unjustified
World War 1- Justified
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Completely Justified
World War 2(European War) Completely Justified
Korean War- Justified
Bay of Pigs- Unjustified
Vietnam War- Mixed
Gulf War- Justified
Somalia- Mixed
Bosnia- Justified
Kosovo- Justified
Afganistan- Completely Justified
Iraq- Unjustified
War vs ISIS- Justified



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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2015, 11:19:04 PM »

American Revolution- Mixed
Barbary Wars- Justified
War of 1812- Unjustified
Indian Wars- War Criminal
Mexican American War- War Criminal
Civil War- Justified (From the Union perspective)
Spanish American War- Unjustified
Philippine American War- War Criminal
World War 1- Unjustified
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Completely Justified
World War 2(European War) Completely Justified
Korean War- Unjustified
Bay of Pigs- Unjustified
Vietnam War- War Criminal
Gulf War- Unjustified
Somalia- Unjustified
Bosnia- Unjustified
Kosovo- Unjustified
Afganistan- Unjustified
Iraq- War Criminal
War vs ISIS- Unjustified

Are you a Ron Pal Liberatian because he would agree with every single one of your answers except civil war which he thinks is unjustified and Revolution which he thinks is justified
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2015, 11:23:39 PM »

American Revolution - Completely Justified
Barbary Wars - Neutral
War of 1812 - Unjustified
All Indian Wars - Criminal
Mexican American War - Criminal
Civil War - Completely Justified
Spanish American War - Unjustified
Philippine American War - Criminal
World War I - Unjustified
World War II (Pacific) -  Justified
World War II (Europe) - Justified
Korean War - Criminal
Vietnam War - Criminal
Gulf War - Criminal
Afghanistan - Criminal
Iraq - Criminal
ISIS - Criminal

How was the Korean War and Gulf Criminal : There was a UN mandate, North Korea and Iraq were the aggressors , and they attacked significant US allies at least in Korea(South Korea turned out to be a prospurous democracy instead of a horrible province of the Kim Dynasty). With those cases it has to be mixed or Justified as , or at worst unjustified if you oppose any intervation. With Afganistan their tailban government harboured terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 so i dont see how attacking them was not justified , the nation building part was unjustified but the invasion was justified
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2015, 12:38:59 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2015, 08:55:02 AM »

Not going to bother with the five categories

American Revolutionary War (1775-1783)
Chickamauga War (1776-1795)
Northwest Indian War (1785-1793)
Whiskey Rebellion (1791-1794)
Quasi War (1798-1800)
First Barbary War (1801-1805)
Tecumseh's War (1811)
War of 1812 (1812-1815)
Creek War (1813-1814)
Second Barbary War (1815)
First Seminole War (1817-1818)
Texas-Indian wars (1820–1875)
Arikara War (1823)
Aegean Sea Anti-Piracy Operations (1825–1828)
Winnebago War (1827)
First Sumatran expedition (1832)
Black Hawk War (1832)
Second Seminole War (1835-1842)
United States Exploring Expedition (1838–1842)
Second Sumatran expedition (1838)
Patriot War (1838)
Mexican-American War (1846-1848)
Cayuse War (1847-1855)
Apache Wars (1851-1900)
Puget Sound War (1855-1856)
Rogue River Wars (1855-1856)
Third Seminole War (1855-1858)
Yakima War (1855-1858)
Watermelon War (1856)

Filibuster War (1856–1857)
Second Opium War (1856-1860)
Utah War (1857-1858)
Navajo Wars (1858-1860)
Cochinchina Campaign (1858–1862)
Cochinchina Campaign (1858–1862)
First and Second Cortina Wars (1859-1861)
Paiute War (1860)
Reform War (1860)

American Civil War (1861-1865)
Yavapai Wars (1861–1875)
Dakota War (1862)
Colorado War (1863-1865)
Shimonoseki War (1863–1864)
Snake War (1864-1868)
Red Cloud's War (1866-1868)
Powder River War (1865)
Comanche Campaign (1867-1875)
United States expedition to Korea (1871)   
Modoc War (1872-1873)
Red River War (1874-1875)
Las Cuevas War (1875)
Great Sioux War (1876-1877)
Buffalo Hunters' War (1876–1877)
Nez Perce War (1877)
Bannock War (1878)
Cheyenne War (1878-1879)
Sheepeater Indian War (1879)
Victorio's War (1879–1881)
White River War (1879-1880)
Pine Ridge Campaign (1890-1891)
Garza Revolution (1891–1893)
Overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii (1893)
Yaqui Wars (1896-1918)
Second Samoan Civil War (1898-1899)
Spanish-American War (1898)
Philippine-American War (1899-1902)
Moro Rebellion (1899–1913)
Boxer Rebellion (1899-1901)
Crazy Snake Rebellion (1909)
Border War (1910-1919)
Occupation of Nicaragua (1912–1933)
Bluff War (1914–1915)
Occupation of Haiti (1915–1934)
Occupation of the Dominican Republic (1916–1924)
World War I (1917-1918)
Russian Civil War (1917-1922)
Posey War (1923)

World War II (1941-1945)
Korean War (1950-1953)
Second Indochina War (1953-1975)
Intervention in Lebanon (1958)
Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961)
Vietnam War (1965–1973)
Dominican Civil War (1965–1966)
First Gulf of Sidra Incident (1981)
Multinational Force in Lebanon (1982-1984)
Invasion of Grenada (1983)
Invasion of Panama (1989-1990)
Persian Gulf War (1990-1991)
Iraqi no-fly zones conflict (1991–2003)
Operation Restore Hope (1992-1994)
Bosnian War (1993-1995)
Operation Uphold Democracy (1994-1995)
Bosnian War (1994–1995)
Kosovo War (1998-1999)
War in Afghanistan (2001-Present)
Iraq War (2003-2011)
War in North-West Pakistan (2004–present)
2011 military intervention in Libya (2011)
Military intervention against ISIL (2014–present)
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2015, 12:55:39 PM »

American Revolution- Totally justified. Would volunteer to fight against the British.
Barbary Wars- Not justified.
War of 1812- Not justified.
Indian Wars - Totally unjust in every sense of the word. Would aid, abet, and (if possible) join any Indian forces fighting against the United States government.
Mexican American war- Totally unjust.
Civil War- Totally justified. Would volunteer for the Union Army.
Spanish American War- Totally unjust in every sense of the word. Would aid, abet, and (if possible) join any Cuban/Filipino forces fighting against the Spanish and then the United States government.
Philippine  American War- See Spanish-American War.
World War 1- Completely unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war, or if possible, try and get into Russia and serve in the Red Army.
World War 2(Pacific Theater) - Unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
World War 2(European War) - Unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
Korean War- Unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
Vietnam War- Totally unjustified. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
Gulf War- Unjust.
Afganistan- Unjust.
Iraq- Totally unjustified.
War vs ISIS- Unjust.

I didn't include a few because I don't feel like they made enough of a societal impact to include them on this list. Also, I'd have included the Spanish Civil War, in which the Republican cause was just and where I'd probably have volunteered as a member of the International Brigades to go fight the fascists.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2015, 01:16:59 PM »

American Revolution- Totally justified. Would volunteer to fight against the British.
Barbary Wars- Not justified.
War of 1812- Not justified.
Indian Wars - Totally unjust in every sense of the word. Would aid, abet, and (if possible) join any Indian forces fighting against the United States government.
Mexican American war- Totally unjust.
Civil War- Totally justified. Would volunteer for the Union Army.
Spanish American War- Totally unjust in every sense of the word. Would aid, abet, and (if possible) join any Cuban/Filipino forces fighting against the Spanish and then the United States government.
Philippine  American War- See Spanish-American War.
World War 1- Completely unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war, or if possible, try and get into Russia and serve in the Red Army.
World War 2(Pacific Theater) - Unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
World War 2(European War) - Unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
Korean War- Unjust. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
Vietnam War- Totally unjustified. Would serve if drafted, but would otherwise agitate against the war.
Gulf War- Unjust.
Afganistan- Unjust.
Iraq- Totally unjustified.
War vs ISIS- Unjust.

I didn't include a few because I don't feel like they made enough of a societal impact to include them on this list. Also, I'd have included the Spanish Civil War, in which the Republican cause was just and where I'd probably have volunteered as a member of the International Brigades to go fight the fascists.


How was WW2 anything but just I mean Japan attacked us on Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on us
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2015, 01:59:55 PM »

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."  -Eisenhower

"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity."  -Eisenhower

No war is 100% justified.  Even the Civil War, which all of you say is, isn't.  I hate war, it is bloody stalemate at best.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2015, 02:07:25 PM »

American Revolution - Completely Justified.
Barbary Wars - Justified.
War of 1812 - Justified.
All Indian Wars - Some were justified, some weren't.
Mexican American War - Justified.
Civil War - Justified as the South acted aggressively at Fort Sumter.
Spanish American War - Unjustified
Philippine American War - Unjustified.
World War I - None of our concern.
World War II (Pacific) - Completely Justified
World War II (Europe) - Justified as the German's randomly declared war on us.
Korean War - None of our concern.
Vietnam War - None of our concern.
Gulf War - None of our concern.
Afghanistan - Justified until we killed Bin Laden, unjustified since.
Iraq - Is this even a question?
ISIS - No further reason to get involved unless they attack the homeland.
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2015, 10:09:20 AM »

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."  -Eisenhower

"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity."  -Eisenhower

No war is 100% justified.  Even the Civil War, which all of you say is, isn't.  I hate war, it is bloody stalemate at best.
Albert Einstein agreed with you.
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2015, 11:42:49 AM »

American Revolution- Mixed
Barbary Wars- Unjustified
War of 1812- Mixed
Indian Wars- Justified
Mexican American war- Mixed
Civil War-  Unjustified
Spanish American War- Mixed
Philippine  American War-  Unjustified
World War 1- Justified
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Justified
World War 2(European War) - Justified
Korean War- Unjustified
Bay of Pigs- Justified
Vietnam War- Unjustified
Gulf War- Unjustified
Somalia- Unjustified
Bosnia- Unjustified
Kosovo- Unjustified
Afganistan- Unjustified
Iraq- Unjustified
War vs ISIS- Unjustified
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2015, 03:49:29 PM »

American Revolution- Mixed
Barbary Wars- Unjustified
War of 1812- Mixed
Indian Wars- Justified
Mexican American war- Mixed
Civil War-  Unjustified
Spanish American War- Mixed
Philippine  American War-  Unjustified
World War 1- Justified
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Justified
World War 2(European War) - Justified
Korean War- Unjustified
Bay of Pigs- Justified
Vietnam War- Unjustified
Gulf War- Unjustified
Somalia- Unjustified
Bosnia- Unjustified
Kosovo- Unjustified
Afganistan- Unjustified
Iraq- Unjustified
War vs ISIS- Unjustified

What?
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2015, 03:52:22 PM »

American Revolution- Mixed
Barbary Wars- Unjustified
War of 1812- Mixed
Indian Wars- Justified
Mexican American war- Mixed
Civil War-  Unjustified
Spanish American War- Mixed
Philippine  American War-  Unjustified
World War 1- Justified
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Justified
World War 2(European War) - Justified
Korean War- Unjustified
Bay of Pigs- Justified
Vietnam War- Unjustified
Gulf War- Unjustified
Somalia- Unjustified
Bosnia- Unjustified
Kosovo- Unjustified
Afganistan- Unjustified
Iraq- Unjustified
War vs ISIS- Unjustified

What?

Afghanistan is understandable for a libertarian, but I agree the Bay of Pigs is confusing. As is his support of WWI.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2020, 03:25:16 PM »

American Revolution: Completely Justified
Quasi-War: Lean Justified
Barbary Wars: Justified
War of 1812: Lean Unjustified
Indian Wars: Completely Unjustified
Mexican-American War: Completely Unjustified
Civil War: Completely Justified
Spanish-American War: Unjustified
Philippine-American War: Completely Unjustified
World War I: Lean Unjustified
World War II: Completely Justified
Korean War: Justified
Bay of Pigs Invasion: Unjustified
Vietnam War: Unjustified
Gulf War: Justified
Kosovo War: Justified
Afghanistan War: Lean Justified
Iraq War: Unjustified
Libyan War: Unjustified
War on ISIS: Justified
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2020, 05:36:12 PM »


American Revolution: Mixed
Quasi-War: Lean Justified
Barbary Wars: Justified
War of 1812: Completely Unjustified and Idiotic
Indian Wars: Completely Unjustified
Mexican-American War: Completely Unjustified
Civil War: Completely Justified
Spanish-American War: Unjustified
Philippine-American War and other acts of Indigenous suppression: Completely Unjustified
World War I: Lean Unjustified
World War II: Completely UnJustified for them not to aide in starting a two front war earlier
Korean War: completely Unjustified
Bay of Pigs Invasion: Completely Unjustified
Vietnam War: Completely Unjustified
Gulf War: Mixed
Kosovo War: Meh
Afghanistan War: UnJustified
Iraq War: Unjustified
Libyan War: Unjustified
War on ISIS: You can’t really count this when it was just a continuation from the Iraq Invasion
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2020, 06:15:47 PM »


American Revolution: Mixed
Quasi-War: Lean Justified
Barbary Wars: Justified
War of 1812: Completely Unjustified and Idiotic
Indian Wars: Completely Unjustified
Mexican-American War: Completely Unjustified
Civil War: Completely Justified
Spanish-American War: Unjustified
Philippine-American War and other acts of Indigenous suppression: Completely Unjustified
World War I: Lean Unjustified
World War II: Completely UnJustified for them not to aide in starting a two front war earlier
Korean War: completely Unjustified
Bay of Pigs Invasion: Completely Unjustified
Vietnam War: Completely Unjustified
Gulf War: Mixed
Kosovo War: Meh
Afghanistan War: UnJustified
Iraq War: Unjustified
Libyan War: Unjustified
War on ISIS: You can’t really count this when it was just a continuation from the Iraq Invasion
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Lol at Korean War being completely unjustified when it was clearly started by the North Koreans and they were attacking our ally . The Afghanistan Government(The Tailban) also literally aided and abetted the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 so the fact is they were complicit in attacking our nation so that makes the invasion completely justified , the occupation after the war you could argue as unjustified too.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2020, 06:20:33 PM »


American Revolution: Mixed
Quasi-War: Lean Justified
Barbary Wars: Justified
War of 1812: Completely Unjustified and Idiotic
Indian Wars: Completely Unjustified
Mexican-American War: Completely Unjustified
Civil War: Completely Justified
Spanish-American War: Unjustified
Philippine-American War and other acts of Indigenous suppression: Completely Unjustified
World War I: Lean Unjustified
World War II: Completely UnJustified for them not to aide in starting a two front war earlier
Korean War: completely Unjustified
Bay of Pigs Invasion: Completely Unjustified
Vietnam War: Completely Unjustified
Gulf War: Mixed
Kosovo War: Meh
Afghanistan War: UnJustified
Iraq War: Unjustified
Libyan War: Unjustified
War on ISIS: You can’t really count this when it was just a continuation from the Iraq Invasion

Lol at Korean War being completely unjustified when it was clearly started by the North Koreans and they were attacking our ally . The Afghanistan Government(The Tailban) also literally aided and abetted the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 so the fact is they were complicit in attacking our nation so that makes the invasion completely justified , the occupation after the war you could argue as unjustified too.

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Only due to the South being controlled by the US-backed Korea, ran by previous servants of the Empire of Japan.

I am rating Afghanistan from the entire war, and the rationale to stay expired fairly quickly.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2020, 06:20:48 PM »

Here’s my new one :


American Revoultion- Completely Justified
Barbary Wars- Justified
War of 1812- Mixed/Lean Justified
Indian Wars- Completely Unjustified (all of them)
Mexican American war- Justified
Civil War- Completely Justified
Spanish American War- Unjustified
Philippine  American War - Completely Unjustified
World War 1- Mixed/Lean Justified
World War 2(Pacific Theater)- Completely Justified
World War 2(European War) Completely Justified
Korean War- Justified
Bay of Pigs- Mixed/Lean Justified
Vietnam War- Unjustified
Grenada - Justified
Gulf War- Justified
Somalia- Mixed
Bosnia- Mixed
Kosovo- Justified
Afganistan- Completely Justified at first but become unjustified in the nation building stage so mixed/Lean Justified
Iraq- Unjustified
War vs ISIS- Justified

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2020, 06:25:09 PM »


American Revolution: Mixed
Quasi-War: Lean Justified
Barbary Wars: Justified
War of 1812: Completely Unjustified and Idiotic
Indian Wars: Completely Unjustified
Mexican-American War: Completely Unjustified
Civil War: Completely Justified
Spanish-American War: Unjustified
Philippine-American War and other acts of Indigenous suppression: Completely Unjustified
World War I: Lean Unjustified
World War II: Completely UnJustified for them not to aide in starting a two front war earlier
Korean War: completely Unjustified
Bay of Pigs Invasion: Completely Unjustified
Vietnam War: Completely Unjustified
Gulf War: Mixed
Kosovo War: Meh
Afghanistan War: UnJustified
Iraq War: Unjustified
Libyan War: Unjustified
War on ISIS: You can’t really count this when it was just a continuation from the Iraq Invasion

Lol at Korean War being completely unjustified when it was clearly started by the North Koreans and they were attacking our ally . The Afghanistan Government(The Tailban) also literally aided and abetted the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 so the fact is they were complicit in attacking our nation so that makes the invasion completely justified , the occupation after the war you could argue as unjustified too.

Only due to the South being controlled by the US-backed Korea, ran by previous servants of the Empire of Japan.

I am rating Afghanistan from the entire war, and the rationale to stay expired fairly quickly.
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The South wanted us to be there and lol at the idea that makes the North Korean invasion justified and not an act of war against South Korea and the US.

If we didn’t get in , all of Korea would have been run by the Kim Dynasty , the only mistake was not stopping after taking Pyongyang as the rest of North Korea would have fallen after that naturally and we could have fortified the gains against Chinese intervention
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