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« on: May 17, 2015, 01:20:54 PM »

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Cisneros-Hillary-Clinton-s-only-option-for-VP-6268491.php


Castro is unqualified and it will become evident very quickly that he isnt ready for primetime. Mayor of San Antonio and HUD Sec would make him the least qualified candidate in living memory.
Given Hil's advanced age and failing facilities, there is a higher chance of his becoming President before Hildog is finished her term(s).
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2015, 01:36:52 PM »

Still way more qualified than Palin.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2015, 01:59:56 PM »

No possibility of becoming a US Senator or Governor of Texas because the state is Texas.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2015, 02:24:29 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2015, 02:30:28 PM »

He didn't say Castro was her first and only option for a vice-President.  He said Castro was her best choice for a hispanic vice-President which makes more sense.  It especially makes sense when you consider the fact that Cisneros is a former San Antonio Mayor and HUD Secretary.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2015, 02:35:00 PM »

I don't see what the problem is. San Antonio is the size of a small state, and he moved on to a Cabinet position.
Wasn't Mayor of San Antonio basically a part-time job, with the majority of the power in the hands of the City Council and the City Manager?
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2015, 02:35:26 PM »

I don't see why he'd be a bad choice. For President? Yes. But for VP? He'd be fine.

He doesn't really need to be "ready for primetime". There's nothing to indicate he's some Palin-in-waiting.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2015, 02:35:55 PM »

I don't see what the problem is. San Antonio is the size of a small state, and he moved on to a Cabinet position.
Wasn't Mayor of San Antonio basically a part-time job, with the majority of the power in the hands of the City Council and the City Manager?
Yes, San Antonio is a weak mayoral system.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2015, 02:40:11 PM »

Well, the Governor of Texas is also a weak position, and yet no one complained about Bush's qualifications...
Mayors serving in weak mayoral systems can still be strong, if they are adept politicians and can elect their supporters to the city council/board of aldermen. It's incorrect to assume that just because Castro was in a weak system that he didn't run San Antonio in reality.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2015, 02:47:29 PM »

Well, the Governor of Texas is also a weak position, and yet no one complained about Bush's qualifications...
In retrospect, we should have.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2015, 03:09:57 PM »

Maybe he should try to challenge Abbott or Cruz in 2018 to see if someone complains about his qualifications after he is a Senator or a Governor. Of course, we all know how that's going to turn out.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2015, 03:16:05 PM »

Being a mayor of a top ten city is more impressive than being the governor of some podunk flyover state.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2015, 03:16:23 PM »

This is where I get annoyed with identity politics. If there isn't a qualified Hispanic candidate for president, then Hillary has no business picking one. It's as simple as that. It's not her fault that the Democratic Party has been pretty bad with getting Hispanic leaders on the national radar. It's not her fault that Loretta Sanchez doesn't have the same talent for national politics like Kamala Harris does. It's also not her fault that the Castros live in Texas, and that Antonio Villaraigosa is essentially a pandering crook.

Hillary is doing her damned best right now to make herself as viable to the Hispanic community as possible with her positions on immigration. Obama is pretty much going as far as he can go in elevating talent like Castro and Tom Perez to positions of power within the federal government. What more could they possibly do?
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2015, 03:34:08 PM »

This is where I get annoyed with identity politics. If there isn't a qualified Hispanic candidate for president, then Hillary has no business picking one. It's as simple as that. It's not her fault that the Democratic Party has been pretty bad with getting Hispanic leaders on the national radar. It's not her fault that Loretta Sanchez doesn't have the same talent for national politics like Kamala Harris does. It's also not her fault that the Castros live in Texas, and that Antonio Villaraigosa is essentially a pandering crook.

Hillary is doing her damned best right now to make herself as viable to the Hispanic community as possible with her positions on immigration. Obama is pretty much going as far as he can go in elevating talent like Castro and Tom Perez to positions of power within the federal government. What more could they possibly do?
Maybe look in the mirror and ask why Republicans have better Hispanics candidates than Democrats, just maybe?

Are there even any Democrats on the level of a Sandoval or Martinez?

I agree that it's concerning that the Democrats don't have talent like Sandoval, Martinez, or even Rubio. But it's more the fault of local and state parties than at the top with Hillary and Obama, and they shouldn't be upset if Hillary doesn't choose Castro because she feels he isn't prepared enough to assume the presidency.

Republican state and local parties made Hispanic candidates like Sandoval and Martinez a priority because it was the only way to win the state, whereas Democrats have the luxury of choosing whatever race candidate they want because their policies are pro-immigration and pro-Hispanic. The Clintons and Obama have always looked for opportunities to elevate Hispanic candidates as much as possible. It's practically why Castro might be viable today, considering Obama gave him the keynote and a cabinet spot.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2015, 03:41:11 PM »

This is where I get annoyed with identity politics. If there isn't a qualified Hispanic candidate for president, then Hillary has no business picking one. It's as simple as that. It's not her fault that the Democratic Party has been pretty bad with getting Hispanic leaders on the national radar. It's not her fault that Loretta Sanchez doesn't have the same talent for national politics like Kamala Harris does. It's also not her fault that the Castros live in Texas, and that Antonio Villaraigosa is essentially a pandering crook.

Hillary is doing her damned best right now to make herself as viable to the Hispanic community as possible with her positions on immigration. Obama is pretty much going as far as he can go in elevating talent like Castro and Tom Perez to positions of power within the federal government. What more could they possibly do?
Maybe look in the mirror and ask why Republicans have better Hispanics candidates than Democrats, just maybe?

Are there even any Democrats on the level of a Sandoval or Martinez?
One factor is that Democrats are more reliant on winning in majority-minority areas.

That leaves them with many members of Congress unable to appeal to enough people to win statewide office. It's the reason there are as many African-American Republicans in the Senate as African-American Democrats.

There is also an element of luck. Menendez has been in statewide office longer than Rubio, Sandoval, Martinez or Cruz, and was the highest ranked Democrat in the foreign relations committee. But he's also under investigation.
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2015, 04:46:06 PM »

This is where I get annoyed with identity politics. If there isn't a qualified Hispanic candidate for president, then Hillary has no business picking one. It's as simple as that. It's not her fault that the Democratic Party has been pretty bad with getting Hispanic leaders on the national radar. It's not her fault that Loretta Sanchez doesn't have the same talent for national politics like Kamala Harris does. It's also not her fault that the Castros live in Texas, and that Antonio Villaraigosa is essentially a pandering crook.

Hillary is doing her damned best right now to make herself as viable to the Hispanic community as possible with her positions on immigration. Obama is pretty much going as far as he can go in elevating talent like Castro and Tom Perez to positions of power within the federal government. What more could they possibly do?

This. It's also not the fault of national Democrats that Bill Richardson retired from politics in ignominy. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2015, 05:22:37 PM »

If Palin and Quayle were qualified this guy certainly is.
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2015, 05:29:01 PM »

 Honestly think Tom Perez would be a better pick than Castro.
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2015, 05:30:51 PM »

Honestly think Tom Perez would be a better pick than Castro.
Castro is both younger and more attractive than Perez.
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2015, 06:38:35 PM »

I don't see what the problem is. San Antonio is the size of a small state, and he moved on to a Cabinet position.

Mayor doesnt have the same responsbilities as a governor
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2015, 06:39:13 PM »



Nope, Palin dealt with energy policy.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2015, 06:40:30 PM »

If Palin and Quayle were qualified this guy certainly is.


Quayle was a 8 year Senator. Palin lost.
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2015, 06:41:18 PM »

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Cisneros-Hillary-Clinton-s-only-option-for-VP-6268491.php


Castro is unqualified and it will become evident very quickly that he isnt ready for primetime. Mayor of San Antonio and HUD Sec would make him the least qualified candidate in living memory.
Given Hil's advanced age and failing facilities, there is a higher chance of his becoming President before Hildog is finished her term(s).
Yeah, if you're 8 or younger, but I doubt that's the demographic Hillary would be going for.
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2015, 06:44:08 PM »

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Cisneros-Hillary-Clinton-s-only-option-for-VP-6268491.php


Castro is unqualified and it will become evident very quickly that he isnt ready for primetime. Mayor of San Antonio and HUD Sec would make him the least qualified candidate in living memory.
Given Hil's advanced age and failing facilities, there is a higher chance of his becoming President before Hildog is finished her term(s).
Yeah, if you're 8 or younger, but I doubt that's the demographic Hillary would be going for.

He is less qualified than Palin.
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2015, 08:02:02 PM »

Why is Julian Castro's name always mentioned but not his brother who's a Congressman and more qualified. There was also dozens of Latinos in the House she could choose from if she really wants a Hispanic on her ticket. Xavier Becerra is one I would suggest.
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