Turkish general election, June 7th 2015

[Boston Bread]

Is an anti-AKP coalition possible? I think I heard MHP dislikes AKP more than CHP, because despite them being far-right their type of nationalism is more like CHP.
Edit: Almost certainly no, I can't see MHP and HDP in a coalition. But I can't see who will prop up AKP either.

[jaichind]

99.8% counted

AKP        40.8          258
CHP        25.1          132
MHP       16.4            81
HDP       12.9            79

So the projections that HDP might overtake MHP were not that crazy after all.  It seems that HDP did well in urban areas where the number of seats available were higher and hence lower threshold to get seats.  The opposite was true for MHP.

[Dan the Roman]

Is an anti-AKP coalition possible? I think I heard MHP dislikes AKP more than CHP, because despite them being far-right their type of nationalism is more like CHP.
Edit: Almost certainly no, I can't see MHP and HDP in a coalition. But I can't see who will prop up AKP either.

The only way would be for a CHP minority with support from both the MHP and the HDP, and the only reason for doing so would be if Erdogan/AKP refuses to offer anything to either of them.

I mean a couple days ago the MHP leader did throw accusations at the Interior Minister in the National Assembly that the Security Services were behind the bombings of HDP events, and declared that anyone attacking the HDP was attacking democracy. But then again, the MHP needed the HDP to pass the threshold to have any leverage.

[Famous Mortimer]

Is an anti-AKP coalition possible? I think I heard MHP dislikes AKP more than CHP, because despite them being far-right their type of nationalism is more like CHP.
Edit: Almost certainly no, I can't see MHP and HDP in a coalition. But I can't see who will prop up AKP either.

The only thing they have in common with the CHP is that the CHP is historically anti-Kurd. They could go into an alliance with the AKP to stop the Kurdish peace process, especially since Erdogan-Kurd relations have broken down over ISIS.

Also, they have made some religious overtures this campaign, attempting to reconcile with the Grand Unity Party, an Islamist splinter party that broke away from them, and putting forward as a candidate that Islamist guy who ran for president against Erdogan.

[jaichind]

The Turkish Lira (TRY) which had been falling for a few weeks on risk that AKP will fail to win a majority which will increase political instability, dropped from 2.66 to 2.78 as the election results became obvious. 

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This may be crazy, but could the MHP prop up AKP?

[Famous Mortimer]

This may be crazy, but could the MHP prop up AKP?

Not crazy at all.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

This may be crazy, but could the MHP prop up AKP?

I was about to ask the same question.

What would the MHP demand in return though...?

[Donnie]

99.93% counted:

AKP 40.81 %   258 seats
CHP 25.01 %   132 seats
MHP 16.34 %    81 seats
HDP 13.06 %    79 seats
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oth.   4.79 %

[Famous Mortimer]

This may be crazy, but could the MHP prop up AKP?

I was about to ask the same question.

What would the MHP demand in return though...?

End to negotiations with the PKK.

Also, just power, ministers. They are not particularly ideological. They sat with the Democratic Left in the 90s, despite having been formed as an anti-Communist death squad.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

A map of the expat vote...

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I really hope HDP passes the threshold.

[jaichind]

Bahceli of MHP has ruled out coalition with AKP.  He said MHP is against AKP, CHP, and HDP.
Demirtas of HDP also seems have ruled out coalition with AKP.
Davutoglu of AKP says that AKP is on duty and will stay on duty to keep  economic stability.

So I guess it is AKP minority government where they will dare all 3 opposition parties to vote together against the government. 

[Famous Mortimer]

Bahceli of MHP has ruled out coalition with AKP.  He said MHP is against AKP, CHP, and HDP.
Demirtas of HDP also seems have ruled out coalition with AKP.

All statements to be taken with a grain of salt.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I note that the HDP dominated the votes cast in Britain. How shocking.

[ag]

On latest results HDP caught up with MHP: both are at 80 seats, it seems.

[Sol]

I note that the HDP dominated the votes cast in Britain. How shocking.

Lots of Kurds?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wait, what? A crucial election in a major country that actually doesn't end up in the worst conceivable way? How is that possible?

[Famous Mortimer]

Who won Azerbaijan?

[jaichind]

A Credit Suisse report indicates that the most likely outcome is an AKP minority government followed by a mid-term election in about 18 months.

[ag]

A Credit Suisse report indicates that the most likely outcome is an AKP minority government followed by a mid-term election in about 18 months.

Hopefully, whoever supports the minority in the interim, would condition the support on partially detatching AKP from Erdogan.

[Nhoj]

Who won Azerbaijan?

Chp with 20 more votes than AKP.

[Hash]

you're welcome maricas

[minionofmidas]

Selahattin Demirtas, co-chairman HDP, thanked imprisoned PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan for supporting peace after HDP wins representation in parliament and denies the ruling AKP a single-party govt.  This does not sound like the words of a party that is about to go into an alliance that includes MHP.  If so we are looking at HDP supporting AKP from the outside or HDP joining AKP in an alliance.

It doesn't sound like the words of a party that is about to go into an alliance, full stop.

This may be crazy, but could the MHP prop up AKP?

I was about to ask the same question.

What would the MHP demand in return though...?

End to negotiations with the PKK.

Also, just power, ministers. They are not particularly ideological. They sat with the Democratic Left in the 90s, despite having been formed as an anti-Communist death squad.

That's because the CHP's claim to be to the AKP's left on any meaningful dimension is a joke, and meant as such.

[Famous Mortimer]

Selahattin Demirtas, co-chairman HDP, thanked imprisoned PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan for supporting peace after HDP wins representation in parliament and denies the ruling AKP a single-party govt.  This does not sound like the words of a party that is about to go into an alliance that includes MHP.  If so we are looking at HDP supporting AKP from the outside or HDP joining AKP in an alliance.

It doesn't sound like the words of a party that is about to go into an alliance, full stop.

This may be crazy, but could the MHP prop up AKP?

I was about to ask the same question.

What would the MHP demand in return though...?

End to negotiations with the PKK.

Also, just power, ministers. They are not particularly ideological. They sat with the Democratic Left in the 90s, despite having been formed as an anti-Communist death squad.

That's because the CHP's claim to be to the AKP's left on any meaningful dimension is a joke, and meant as such.

I would agree but that doesn't have anything to do with the point I made.

The example I use to demonstrate the MHP's lack of ideology was from the 90s, the AKP didn't exist then and the CHP was irrelevant at the time.