NE1: Event Referendum Act

[DKrol]

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Debate will last for 72 hours, ending at 4:00PM on Thursday, May 21st.

Lt. Gov. Pikachu, you have 36 hours to advocate for your bill.

[pikachu]

This bill will allow Northeastern citizens to have their voices heard when organizations such as the IOC, FIFA, BIE, or others want to host events in their area. This bill would help the Northeast to meet a standard commonly held in the rest of the Western world, while also preventing the embarassing situation of having to withdraw a bid and wasting manhours and. money.

[Prince of Salem]

After what we've seen in Brazil, I think this is very sensible. I'll support this. It just makes sense.

[free my dawg]

I'm okay with more referenda.

[Clyde1998]

I'm happy with this.

[Dr. Cynic]

This has my support.

[Blair]

Is the referendum binding?

[cinyc]

Just who is supposed to vote on this referendum?  All Northeast citizens, or just citizens of a particular state?  Who opens the vote?  When is it held?  Or is this just supposed to be symbolic with no actual vote?

[pikachu]

Just who is supposed to vote on this referendum?  All Northeast citizens, or just citizens of a particular state?  Who opens the vote?  When is it held?  Or is this just supposed to be symbolic with no actual vote?

Citizens of the state it's being held in. From a game perspective, it's symbolic, but it'd hypothetically have a binding effect. (Just look at 2022 Olympics to see how they can have an effect.)

[cinyc]

Just who is supposed to vote on this referendum?  All Northeast citizens, or just citizens of a particular state?  Who opens the vote?  When is it held?  Or is this just supposed to be symbolic with no actual vote?

Citizens of the state it's being held in. From a game perspective, it's symbolic, but it'd hypothetically have a binding effect. (Just look at 2022 Olympics to see how they can have an effect.)

You haven't specified in the law who opens the vote, how long it is open for, when it is held, etc.  It's also not clear to me that we can call for a state-only referendum by law instead of in the Northeast constitution, but that's a separate issue.

[Dr. Cynic]

Just who is supposed to vote on this referendum?  All Northeast citizens, or just citizens of a particular state?  Who opens the vote?  When is it held?  Or is this just supposed to be symbolic with no actual vote?

Citizens of the state it's being held in. From a game perspective, it's symbolic, but it'd hypothetically have a binding effect. (Just look at 2022 Olympics to see how they can have an effect.)

You haven't specified in the law who opens the vote, how long it is open for, when it is held, etc.  It's also not clear to me that we can call for a state-only referendum by law instead of in the Northeast constitution, but that's a separate issue.

It seems like this law is only a symbolic one, not one where we will actually vote on these referenda, so is that sort of thing really necessary to add?

[DKrol]

Time for debate has ended.

We will now move to a 48 hours vote.

Based on the questions raised by Cinyc, I must vote Nay

[Dr. Cynic]

Aye

[Clyde1998]

Aye

[cinyc]

Just who is supposed to vote on this referendum?  All Northeast citizens, or just citizens of a particular state?  Who opens the vote?  When is it held?  Or is this just supposed to be symbolic with no actual vote?

Citizens of the state it's being held in. From a game perspective, it's symbolic, but it'd hypothetically have a binding effect. (Just look at 2022 Olympics to see how they can have an effect.)

You haven't specified in the law who opens the vote, how long it is open for, when it is held, etc.  It's also not clear to me that we can call for a state-only referendum by law instead of in the Northeast constitution, but that's a separate issue.

It seems like this law is only a symbolic one, not one where we will actually vote on these referenda, so is that sort of thing really necessary to add?

If it is truly symbolic, then it should say so.  Otherwise, someone might have to actually open up voting booths to comply with the law.

I don't care what path the Northeast chooses here, but it should choose a clear path so that there is no ambiguity down the road.  The worst thing that can happen is that we have another law on the books that we quickly forget about.

If I were in the Assembly, I would vote Nay.  The law's not clear.

[Prince of Salem]

Aye, but I'd be great to have some further amendments later for clarification.

[Clyde1998]

I think this vote should be closed now.

Aye - 3
Nay - 1
DNV - 1

[Blair]

Serious concerns over the bill. As many will know I'm hardly Ciync's ideological match but he raises good points about this bill. Not only does it lead to a bloated referendum culture (I could see money being pumped in my rival cities to oppose the event) but the bill is awfully worded, vague and rather rushed. I urge the Governor to veto this bill

[free my dawg]

I mean we have to wait for the booth to close first

[DKrol]

With 3 ayes, 1 nay, and 1 Representative not voting, the bill passes. It will be sent to the Governor.