Christie: 'You Can't Enjoy Your Civil Liberties If You're In A Coffin'
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« on: May 19, 2015, 02:46:11 PM »

I guess he isn't going after the libertarian vote.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/18/chris-christie-911-attacks-coffin_n_7309628.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016

Hours after delivering a hawkish foreign policy speech, in which he lambasted critics of post-Sept. 11 domestic surveillance tactics, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) ramped up his rhetoric further against those whom he derided as “civil liberties extremists.”

During a Monday town hall meeting at a Veterans of Foreign Wars hall in this southern New Hampshire town, Christie raised the 9/11 attacks in an extended riff about where he comes down in the ongoing debate between personal liberty and public security.

“All these people are talking about liberty,” he said. “How did that attack steal our liberty? We acted differently. We conducted our lives differently. We were reticent. We were scared.”

Christie said that this collective reaction to 9/11 qualified as “stealing of our liberty, too.”

Then he upped the ante with a dramatic flourish.

“And there are going to be some who are going to come before you and are going to say, ‘Oh, no, no, no. This is not what the Founders intended,’” he said. “The Founders made sure that the first obligation of the American government was to protect the lives of the American people, and we can do this in a way that’s smart and cost-effective and protects civil liberties. But you know, you can’t enjoy your civil liberties if you’re in a coffin.”
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 03:48:14 PM »

Yeah, how dare people care about their constitutional liberties? We need the government to protect (spy on *cough*) American citizens no matter what!
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 03:50:43 PM »

muh 9/11
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 03:53:20 PM »

Hey Christie, if you are going to sally into the delicate area of civil liberties versus the Constitution is not a suicide pact, you had better actually get into the details of where the balance is off a bit and needs to be corrected, as opposed to the blunderbuss way that you did it, which you know, kind of frightens people. Particularly since trust in government in evaluating the seriousness of such threats, is not very high. Folks have used and abused the barbarians are coming threat before to trash liberties in cynical manner, often to protect themselves from scrutiny. You know, maybe your problem is that you are on a perpetual sugar high.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2015, 03:57:58 PM »

God, I hate this argument from Republicans.

Do you like doing (insert family activity here)? Try doing that when your DEAD!

As I type this, I'm watching Mike Lee on MSNBC criticizing other Republicans for things like this. I can't believe I agree with him.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 04:06:27 PM »

You also can't enjoy your Big Macs if you're in a coffin.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2015, 04:11:25 PM »

You also can't enjoy your Big Macs if you're in a coffin.

Ha! I'm sure Christie got scared straight when someone told him this.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 04:12:12 PM »

You also can't enjoy your Big Macs if you're in a coffin.

Christie wouldn't even fit into a coffin. Sad

He can get an XXXXXL one custom made.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2015, 04:17:47 PM »

You also can't enjoy your Big Macs if you're in a coffin.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 04:20:01 PM »

You also can't enjoy your Big Macs if you're in a coffin.

Christie wouldn't even fit into a coffin. Sad
He's dead enough politically.
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 05:19:01 PM »

Poor man's Rudy Giuliani.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 05:35:43 PM »

A noun and 9/11?

9/11>Civil Liberties
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2015, 05:54:29 PM »

President Christie will make sure no one ever dies, ever.
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2015, 05:59:30 PM »

not a good move.  the idea is not to actually defend this stuff, instead smile and wave as the perfect totalitarianism is built behind the scenes.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2015, 06:08:52 PM »

Lol...good line Christie...you got everyone talking about you.

Why are all the decent Republicans doomed to fail with their base?
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2015, 06:53:13 PM »

So Christie is pissing off the Libertarians with this (and his vow to go after the legal pot states)
He has pissed off the olds with talk of taking away their Social Security
He has pissed off the neocons by saying Iraq war was a mistake
He has pissed off the socons by dropping his appeal to ban SSM
He has pissed off moderates by switching positions on path to citizenship (killing his supposed crossover GE appeal)

He is on a roll!
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2015, 07:40:12 PM »

Christie pretending he has the slightest clue what the Founding Fathers would want - what a joke! He'd be a better fit as King George III's royal advisor than in any position in the early American government. Take your 9/11 hysteria and cradle-to-grave security dystopia elsewhere.
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2015, 03:06:39 AM »

"But you know, you can’t enjoy your civil liberties if you’re in a coffin.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PdiCJUysIT0#t=32


Hours after delivering a hawkish foreign policy speech,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PdiCJUysIT0#t=42
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 03:10:31 AM »

Christie pretending he has the slightest clue what the Founding Fathers would want - what a joke! He'd be a better fit as King George III's royal advisor than in any position in the early American government. Take your 9/11 hysteria and cradle-to-grave security dystopia elsewhere.

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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2015, 09:38:03 AM »

Christie's not wrong.
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2015, 11:38:22 AM »

^If by that you mean, you literally can't enjoy your civil liberties when you're dead, then yes. What he said was a factual statement.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2015, 12:53:36 PM »

This board's focus is off. Christie will lose for other reasons. Paul will lose in large part because he filibusters the Patriot Act.
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