Are the lives of Southeast Asians less important than Native Americans

[Mechaman]

Well?

[SWE]

Yes, as long as I get my Medicare when I turn 65 (normal)

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Yes, because we landed on the moon.

[TNF]

Yes, because #NotAllDemocrats

[Zioneer]

If you're talking about Jackson and LBJ, in terms of their attitude and actions towards those groups, they're both equally bad. LBJ though is better in that he tried to help a different marginalized group of people, and he actually cared about the poor.

Note: I'm not excusing either president, it's just that one did other things that could be considered good (even while it might not outweigh Vietnam in terms of importance), while Andrew Jackson was fairly awful all the way around. Though Jackson did love his wife, while LBJ was somewhat... JFK-esque in that regard. Obvious one woman doesn't outweigh thousands of Native Americans or Southeast Asians, but Jackson was respectable in that he really loved his wife.

[Lief 🗽]

I wasn't aware that Johnson was attempting the genocide of Southeast Asians. Stupid comparison is stupid.

[TNF]

I wasn't aware that Johnson was attempting the genocide of Southeast Asians. Stupid comparison is stupid.

I mean carpet bombing and napalming an entire country, killing millions of people and impoverishing those left alive is pretty close to genocide, if not in word then at least in deed. We did drop more ordinance on Vietnam than in all of World War II, as I recall.

[Mechaman]

lol at the idea that death tolls are not important.  Jackson would have had to have done the Indian Removal Act at least 100 times to equal the amount killed because of misguided US Policy in Southeast Asia.

EDIT: Apparently I had an extremely liberal estimate of how many died in the Trail of Tears.  So I revised the number accordingly.

[Beet]

As I said in the other thread, Jackson's Native American policy was a small part of the 400 year European colonization of the Americas, and an inevitable result thereof. To be singularly outraged over it without being equally outraged over the whole of "manifest destiny" seems strange. But the latter is too hard because our whole country was founded on it, so we'll just make ourselves feel better by denouncing the most egregious examples, I guess.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Yes, I like my free tribal Healthcare so I can get rid of Obummercare and the acupuncture doesn't do it for me (Teabagger)

[SATW]

I'm assuming this is talking about FDR, and Truman? or does this include Johnson as well?

I think FDR is an MASSIVE HP, and a POS human being. I think Truman was an amazing President and the decision to drop the bombs was correct and necessary. I think Johnson was a HP as President but not a POS human being.