Would you accept increasing the size of Senate if it meant electoral reform?
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Question: Would you accept increasing the size of Senate if it meant electoral reform?
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No
 
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Yes, but no more than 1 or 2 additional seats
 
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Yes, but no more than 3 or 4 additional seats
 
#4
Yes, but no more than 5 additional seats
 
#5
Yes (even more than 5 is acceptable if it means reform)
 
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« on: May 20, 2015, 09:25:03 AM »

Alright, so bicameralism is opposed by a narrow majority. So now we know having a house is out of the question. But that doesn't increasing the size of the Senate is out of the question.

A lot of reform proposals involve increasing the size of the Senate to accommodate different voting methods. If it meant reform, would you accept increasing the size of the Senate?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2015, 09:30:02 AM »

I'd love to see a House of Representatives and no Senate tbh
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 09:58:59 AM »

I thought parliamentary would be great.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2015, 11:08:31 AM »

Depends on the reform in question, but more senate seats are ok. Although considering the limited number of people with the time and energy to run for senate, I'm worried that having 15+ senate seats would no longer make elections competitive, as in almost anybody who wanted run could get in. Does anyone think that might be a problem?
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 11:21:38 AM »

Long term wise I'd actually support a parliament based system
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2015, 11:33:38 AM »

We barely have enough candidates for office as it is. No.

Long term wise I'd actually support a parliament based system

The problem with that is that most of the people here are more familiar with American politics (it is, after all, uselectionatlas.org). I worry that switching to a parliamentary system would lead to less interest from those who aren't familiar with it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 12:08:59 PM »

The question isn't about a parliamentary system, guys.  Once we figure out how we should be electing our legislators, then we can quibble about how they govern.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2015, 03:25:27 PM »

On that point though we do seem to have a shortage of candidates-the issue is also that we have very few 'free agents'-people without roles
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2015, 03:26:59 PM »

Only by one.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2015, 03:30:53 PM »

On that point though we do seem to have a shortage of candidates-the issue is also that we have very few 'free agents'-people without roles
Very true. This is particularly a problem on the Regional level: even in the Mideast (the largest of the 5 Regions) we barely have enough interested citizens to fill all of the offices.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2015, 06:11:16 PM »

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For what it's worth, consolidation began with 35% approval and worked its way up in public opinion to 60-65% before the vote. A few points' worth of deficit is no reason to give up on an idea.

Like I said in the other thread, the only way you can expand the number of federal offices responsibly - whether it's one chamber or two - is to take from existing regional offices. And the only way that is going to happen in a way that is concrete and codified into law is reducing the number of regions that exist.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2015, 06:36:11 PM »

No. I support a simple and straightforward bicameral plan that Yankee tweaked from my own.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2015, 09:02:13 AM »

No. I support a simple and straightforward bicameral plan that Yankee tweaked from my own.

Bicameralism is not supported by the majority of Atlasians. Time to move on.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2015, 01:10:27 AM »

No. I support a simple and straightforward bicameral plan that Yankee tweaked from my own.

Bicameralism is not supported by the majority of Atlasians. Time to move on.

No plan is going to have majority support at this juncture.
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2015, 02:45:39 AM »

The only thing that has majority support right now is the status quo versus every possible reform option most likely because he one contains something that some groups do not like. Therefore the status quo becomes the default, preferred and safe option. Unless one is prepared to attempt to move and shape public opinion on any proposal, than no proposal is going to succeed, Earl.
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2015, 06:45:11 AM »

Well, this poll series is an attempt to figure out if there is a plan that has a majority support. Maybe you're right, but we'll see.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2015, 12:20:30 PM »

The Electoral Reform Amendment had majority support but failed...
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2015, 03:28:15 PM »

The Electoral Reform Amendment had majority support but failed...

Then we need something that is more popular.
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