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« on: May 20, 2015, 08:30:18 PM »

Was Calvin Coolidge a good President?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2015, 10:13:05 PM »

Yes (R).  The notion that his fiscal policies more or less caused the Depression is as simplistic as the notion that FDR's fiscal policies more or less fixed it, and his stands on civil rights were heroic and noble.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 10:20:30 PM »

Yes (I/O)
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2015, 10:24:45 PM »

No (D).
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 11:58:40 PM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2015, 12:00:01 AM »

^ Interestingly, Reagan always said his favorite President was Coolidge.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2015, 12:03:17 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Because Coolidge has a sizable libertarian fan-base that Raygun could never have with his bloody foreign policy.

And No (D), obviously.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2015, 12:06:26 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Coolidge spoke out against lynching, Reagan started his campaign in lynch central advocating for "state's rights".

That's the tip of the iceberg.
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2015, 12:08:18 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Because Coolidge has a sizable libertarian fan-base that Raygun could never have with his bloody foreign policy.

And No (D), obviously.

Bloody Foreign Policy lol, you know he got us involved in less wars then every president who succeeded him then other then maybe Clinton
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2015, 12:10:58 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Coolidge spoke out against lynching, Reagan started his campaign in lynch central advocating for "state's rights".

That's the tip of the iceberg.

Reagan signed MLK day

Reagan policies created more jobs then any other president since WW2 other then Clinton(Who by the was a Conservative Democrat)

Reagan finished off what Nixon started( the end of the Soviet Union) by having the guts to bankrupt them

Reagan brought national pride back

The country was better when Reagan left then when he took office

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2015, 12:13:21 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Because Coolidge has a sizable libertarian fan-base that Raygun could never have with his bloody foreign policy.

And No (D), obviously.

Bloody Foreign Policy lol, you know he got us involved in less wars then every president who succeeded him then other then maybe Clinton

He aided extremely brutal regimes around the world. Coolidge, whatever his endless faults, did not.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2015, 12:17:17 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Because Coolidge has a sizable libertarian fan-base that Raygun could never have with his bloody foreign policy.

And No (D), obviously.

Bloody Foreign Policy lol, you know he got us involved in less wars then every president who succeeded him then other then maybe Clinton

He aided extremely brutal regimes around the world. Coolidge, whatever his endless faults, did not.

FDR helped Stalin defeat germany. At the time USSR was the biggest evil and we needed to defeat it at all costs. Today my policy would be to team up with Iran to stop ISIS
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2015, 12:18:23 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Coolidge spoke out against lynching, Reagan started his campaign in lynch central advocating for "state's rights".

That's the tip of the iceberg.

Reagan signed MLK day

Reagan policies created more jobs then any other president since WW2 other then Clinton(Who by the was a Conservative Democrat)

Reagan finished off what Nixon started( the end of the Soviet Union) by having the guts to bankrupt them

Reagan brought national pride back

The country was better when Reagan left then when he took office



-Initially opposed MLK Day, caved to pressure.

-The jobs were largely low-wage and without health benefits. And poverty and the murder rate was high.

-Less than 50 percent of Americans expressed trust in the government in all eight years he was in office. In 1964, 70% of Americans trusted the government. Not much "national pride."

And please assert how he bankrupted the USSR.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2015, 12:21:35 AM »

No, he was pretty terrible in every way possible including laissez-faire economic policies, high tariffs, continuance of Prohibition, approving the 1924 restrictions on immigration, the weird mix of isolationism with Dollar diplomacy in Latin America etc.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2015, 12:22:07 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Because Coolidge has a sizable libertarian fan-base that Raygun could never have with his bloody foreign policy.

And No (D), obviously.

Bloody Foreign Policy lol, you know he got us involved in less wars then every president who succeeded him then other then maybe Clinton

He aided extremely brutal regimes around the world. Coolidge, whatever his endless faults, did not.

FDR helped Stalin defeat germany. At the time USSR was the biggest evil and we needed to defeat it at all costs. Today my policy would be to team up with Iran to stop ISIS

What determines "biggest evil?" Certainly the USSR was the most weaponized authoritarian nation in the 1980s, but what is "more" evil? Human rights abuses are never acceptable to me.

In any case, Reagan's policy is more akin to an alternate US president choosing to aid Hitler to destroy Stalin.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2015, 12:30:55 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Coolidge spoke out against lynching, Reagan started his campaign in lynch central advocating for "state's rights".

That's the tip of the iceberg.

Reagan signed MLK day

Reagan policies created more jobs then any other president since WW2 other then Clinton(Who by the was a Conservative Democrat)

Reagan finished off what Nixon started( the end of the Soviet Union) by having the guts to bankrupt them

Reagan brought national pride back

The country was better when Reagan left then when he took office



-Initially opposed MLK Day, caved to pressure.

-The jobs were largely low-wage and without health benefits. And poverty and the murder rate was high.

-Less than 50 percent of Americans expressed trust in the government in all eight years he was in office. In 1964, 70% of Americans trusted the government. Not much "national pride."

And please assert how he bankrupted the USSR.

Median Household income went up from 46000(2012 value) when he took office to  51681 when he left office(2012 value). This though means more as inflation dropped by over 10% in his term. Carter presidency had no median income increase and inflation rates skyrocketed during his term .

http://www.davemanuel.com/median-household-income.php
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2015, 12:34:24 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Coolidge spoke out against lynching, Reagan started his campaign in lynch central advocating for "state's rights".

That's the tip of the iceberg.

Reagan signed MLK day

Reagan policies created more jobs then any other president since WW2 other then Clinton(Who by the was a Conservative Democrat)

Reagan finished off what Nixon started( the end of the Soviet Union) by having the guts to bankrupt them

Reagan brought national pride back

The country was better when Reagan left then when he took office



-Initially opposed MLK Day, caved to pressure.

-The jobs were largely low-wage and without health benefits. And poverty and the murder rate was high.

-Less than 50 percent of Americans expressed trust in the government in all eight years he was in office. In 1964, 70% of Americans trusted the government. Not much "national pride."

And please assert how he bankrupted the USSR.

Median Household income went up from 46000(2012 value) when he took office to  51681 when he left office(2012 value). This though means more as inflation dropped by over 10% in his term. Carter presidency had no median income increase and inflation rates skyrocketed during his term .

http://www.davemanuel.com/median-household-income.php

We're hijacking this thread. We'll continue this discussion through PM.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2015, 12:34:29 AM »

Yes (I)

I'd like a similar president today. Not my ideal, but far better than any options we've been given in a long time.
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2015, 12:38:30 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Coolidge spoke out against lynching, Reagan started his campaign in lynch central advocating for "state's rights".

That's the tip of the iceberg.

Reagan signed MLK day

Reagan policies created more jobs then any other president since WW2 other then Clinton(Who by the was a Conservative Democrat)

Reagan finished off what Nixon started( the end of the Soviet Union) by having the guts to bankrupt them

Reagan brought national pride back

The country was better when Reagan left then when he took office



-Initially opposed MLK Day, caved to pressure.

-The jobs were largely low-wage and without health benefits. And poverty and the murder rate was high.

-Less than 50 percent of Americans expressed trust in the government in all eight years he was in office. In 1964, 70% of Americans trusted the government. Not much "national pride."

And please assert how he bankrupted the USSR.

Median Household income went up from 46000(2012 value) when he took office to  51681 when he left office(2012 value). This though means more as inflation dropped by over 10% in his term. Carter presidency had no median income increase and inflation rates skyrocketed during his term .

http://www.davemanuel.com/median-household-income.php

We're hijacking this thread. We'll continue this discussion through PM.

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2015, 12:38:50 AM »

How is Calvin Coolidge is getting better praise then Reagan

Coolidge spoke out against lynching, Reagan started his campaign in lynch central advocating for "state's rights".

That's the tip of the iceberg.

Reagan signed MLK day

Reagan policies created more jobs then any other president since WW2 other then Clinton(Who by the was a Conservative Democrat)

Reagan finished off what Nixon started( the end of the Soviet Union) by having the guts to bankrupt them

Reagan brought national pride back

The country was better when Reagan left then when he took office



1) As others said he initially opposed, what difference does a holiday make when your having your food stamps cut, experiencing inner city decline etc. Its pandering politics at its best
 
2)Okay great, he created jobs. Did so whilst massively increasing the debt and the deficit

3)Please... that's just wrong. USSR broke down because of Gorbachev reforms, plus the desire for eastern Europeons to have democracy+equal rights. Best Reagan did was a couple of speeches but he didn't bankrupt them. They'd been in decline since 1968

4) So did Adolf
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2015, 02:55:41 AM »

No (not a libertarian circlejerker)
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2015, 12:53:40 PM »

No (not a libertarian circlejerker)

What exactly was your issue with him?
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2015, 01:31:06 PM »

When judging a pre-New Deal president, we should get down to the question of what the presidency is or what it was supposed to be.  It was not yet solidified that the president should be the activist leader of all aspects of the political process that we expect of the President today.

Near as I can tell, Calvin Coolidge was a competent administrator of the Federal Government, dispassionately cleaning up the mess that was left to him by Warren Harding's death.  His administration scores well compared the authoritarian chaos of the last years of the Wilson Administration, or the corruption of the Harding years. His adminstrations handling of the 1927 Mississippi Flood was widely lauded (though it certainly had it's failings).  He did that which a good President of the United States was expected to accomplish in 1920s America.   As such, whatever my opinion of his policy views (not a protectionist, et al.)  I cannot say that he was a bad president
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2015, 10:45:03 PM »

I don't think that he was that great. His laissez-faire policies helped bring about the Great Depression. It's a pity that he wasn't able to push through any kind of civil rights.

That being said, I'd say that he's one of my favorites personality-wise. A many of few, but carefully chosen, words. "You lose." "I do not choose to run for President in 1928."
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2015, 10:47:05 PM »

Yes, Massive FF.
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