Why is SSM such a big deal?

[YaBoyNY]

The religious liberty involved in this centers around free speech and the imposition of involuntary servitude on bakeries and if the far-left has their way, churches.

Also, by the way, freedom of speech doesn't protect stupid opinions from being called stupid.

It just protects your right to speak your backwards opinion and our right to laugh at you for having it.

[YaBoyNY]

A CEO was forced out of his job for the "crime" of engaging in the political process by donating to the campaign for California's Proposition 8.   Bakers are being forced to bake cakes with messages in support of something they vehemently disagree with.   Some "progressives" label anyone who has legitimate religious objections to gay marriage as "bigots" and "haters", instead of engaging in debate, and try to ruin opponents' lives and job prospects. 

If you don't see that as gun pointing by SSM proponents, I don't know what to tell you.  If you dare disagree with SSM, you are evil incarnate to "progressives".

That's because there's no such thing as a legitimate religious objection to gay marriage.

It's 2015. Religion should evolve alongside people. Also, because this is a secular nation, run on, wait for it, secular values, prohibiting or denying SSM on religious grounds would be going against separation of church and state.

You're more than welcome to move to someplace like Iran though if you want a country run on religious grounds.

[YaBoyNY]

A CEO was forced out of his job for the "crime" of engaging in the political process by donating to the campaign for California's Proposition 8.   Bakers are being forced to bake cakes with messages in support of something they vehemently disagree with.   Some "progressives" label anyone who has legitimate religious objections to gay marriage as "bigots" and "haters", instead of engaging in debate, and try to ruin opponents' lives and job prospects. 

If you don't see that as gun pointing by SSM proponents, I don't know what to tell you.  If you dare disagree with SSM, you are evil incarnate to "progressives".

That's because there's no such thing as a legitimate religious objection to gay marriage.

It's 2015. Religion should evolve alongside people. Also, because this is a secular nation, run on, wait for it, secular values, prohibiting or denying SSM on religious grounds would be going against separation of church and state.

You're more than welcome to move to someplace like Iran though if you want a country run on religious grounds.

Newsflash:  The Bible is not changing.  Religion should not get with the times.  It is time society stops trying to rip pages out of the Bible.  I sincerely hope the Supreme Court is smart and does NOT impose same-sex marriage in all 50 states.  It threatens America's churches, especially the most conservative ones.  It also threatens Christian schools.  Liberal progressives seriously want to see pastors thrown in jail for life for preaching against same sex marriage and they want to take away tax exempt status for those who refuse to go along with gay marriage.  The denominations who are allowing same sex marriage now are 100% WRONG on that issue.  The Bible clearly states Adam and Eve.  The Bible clearly prohibits a man sleeping with a man.  It is not a slippery slope to other forms of "marriage", but it is a slippery slope to which all voices of opposition will be discriminated against, by the loss of jobs, the loss of their business, imprisonment.

However, there is one thing that is an ABSOLUTE FACT that NO one can deny.  Jesus reigns.  What He says goes.  It doesn't matter if you're an atheist or a member of another religion.  What Jesus says goes.  He will stamp out ALL same sex relationships and marriages.  He will get rid of all sin.

Furthermore, the Bible clearly says no one is born gay.  Being gay is absolutely positively a choice.  The Bible is the rule book on all human life, so no one can legitimately deny its teachings.

Just because we Christians hate gay marriage does not mean we hate gay people or are bigots.  We love gays, but are just trying to uphold traditional, conservative values that liberal progressives are trying so hard to get rid of and replace.

Gay activists should not force everyone to accept their marriage.  They want open mindedness, so why aren't they open minded to conservative, Biblical values?

Sorry for the rant, but it is a topic I have come to the correct realization on.  Christianity reigns and gay marriage loses in eternity.  Pure and simple.

Imagine if they really threw you in jail for this post.

I actually think that'd be hilarious.

[YaBoyNY]

What Christian teachings say about homosexuality is 100% irrelevant to this discussion because we have  a secular Constitution and government. 

We have a First Amendment which says Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.  That means you can't force a church to perform gay marriages, and, ideally, a baker from baking a pro-gay marriage cake when it is against his religious beliefs to do so.  Sadly, some anti-religious "progressives" on your side want to force both, either through taking away tax-exempt status of religions that don't perform gay marriages or forcing bakers to bake something saying something you don't believe in.

We also have the right to elect officials who will enact whatever policies we think are relevant, whether they be based on religious beliefs, Satanism or moral relativism, as long as they do not go so far as to establish an official state religion.  So to say that we have a secular Constitution and government isn't quite true.  We should, ideally, have a government that reflects the values of those who our representatives represent.

So Same-Sex Marriage should be legalized federally this very instant then, because the people our representatives supposedly represent support it as a majority.

[YaBoyNY]

So Same-Sex Marriage should be legalized federally this very instant then, because the people our representatives supposedly represent support it as a majority.

No.  Marriage is an issue that has been left to the states.  Let them decide.

I have little conceptual issue with state legislatures passing same sex marriage laws.  I disagree with it, but respect the democratic process.  What I have a big problem with is courts creating a new-found right to something that hasn't existed for thousands of years.  Nothing has changed to make something that was illegal now the law of the land.

So, basically, the government should represent the people, except when it shouldn't.

(Edited to delete a reply to a deleted post in a multi-reply post. - TF)

[YaBoyNY]

Sure there is. One routinely has street parades and blocks traffic for it. One does not.

Probably because one group already has rights and doesn't need to fight for them using forms of public protest.

The dance club music and very, highly inappropriate costumes are a protest?

Hello? Anybody?

Am I back in 2000?