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« on: May 22, 2015, 02:07:43 PM »
http://chicago.suntimes.com/lynn-sweet-politics/7/71/620203/lynn-sweet-bipartisanship-index-lugar-center

Posting this to quiet the doubts about Kirk being moderate.

#reelect Kirk
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 02:08:40 PM »
You don't put a space in a hashtag you doofus.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2015, 02:42:21 PM »
Yeah, because it worked so well for the 5th most bipartisan senator, Mark Pryor.
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 03:36:41 PM »
Pryor is 5th in that list. lol.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2015, 04:04:39 PM »
Questionable methodology.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2015, 04:07:27 PM »
National Journal ranked Landrieu the 6th most bipastisan Senator for 2013, yet the OP seemed to have "doubts" about her. In fact, I think the guy he endorsed over her was in the top 50 most conservative House members.

Very interesting standards.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2015, 04:25:03 PM »
Considering how polarized congress is, that isn't saying much anymore.

Democrats won't attack Kirk for the 6 or 7 times he voted with Democrats, they'll attack him for the 50 or 60 that he didn't.
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2015, 07:13:03 PM »
Quote from: maxwell on May 22, 2015, 02:08:40 PM
You don't put a space in a hashtag you doofus.

This and rankings like this are subjective, you know.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2015, 10:52:14 PM »
Quote from: Nyvin on May 22, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
Considering how polarized congress is, that isn't saying much anymore.

Democrats won't attack Kirk for the 6 or 7 times he voted with Democrats, they'll attack him for the 50 or 60 that he didn't.

This exactly.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2015, 12:48:04 AM »
Well, generally agree with this ratings. But they are not percentagewise, so, really, in this era of extremely high polarization you can stand very high being only 10-15% "bipartisan"....
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2015, 07:39:08 AM »
GOP lead an unprecedent obstruction of Loretta Lynch; which will be aired in a negative ad, sooner or later by Duckworth, as he will have some explaining to do, on that one.

As Duckworth look, as a wounded veteran to support.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2015, 03:25:10 PM »
He's still a shameless AIPAC shill.
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2015, 04:43:16 PM »
The worst members of Congress are invariably the most "bipartisan" ones.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2015, 04:44:43 PM »
Quote from: Miles on May 22, 2015, 04:07:27 PM
National Journal ranked Landrieu the 6th most bipastisan Senator for 2013, yet the OP seemed to have "doubts" about her. In fact, I think the guy he endorsed over her was in the top 50 most conservative House members.

Very interesting standards.

She's a woman Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2015, 04:51:04 PM »
Quote from: Snowstalker on May 23, 2015, 04:43:16 PM
The worst members of Congress are invariably the most "bipartisan" ones.

Now that's just true.
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2015, 05:24:09 PM »
This doesn't mean anything. He's not going to run on being the '6th most bipartisan Senator'.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2015, 05:56:38 PM »
Quote from: maxwell on May 23, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: Snowstalker on May 23, 2015, 04:43:16 PM
The worst members of Congress are invariably the most "bipartisan" ones.

Now that's just true.
^^^
Snowstalker's dead right on this one.
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2015, 06:23:41 PM »
Quote from: Sanchez Stands With Rand! on May 23, 2015, 05:56:38 PM
Quote from: maxwell on May 23, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: Snowstalker on May 23, 2015, 04:43:16 PM
The worst members of Congress are invariably the most "bipartisan" ones.

Now that's just true.
^^^
Snowstalker's dead right on this one.
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2015, 09:31:04 PM »
It won't matter. Illinois isn't a bipartisan state, and certainly not in Presidential years.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2015, 12:15:50 AM »
Quote from: Snowstalker on May 23, 2015, 04:43:16 PM
The worst members of Congress are invariably the most "bipartisan" ones.

The worst from YOUR point of view. Don't speak for everyone else....
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2015, 12:16:45 AM »
Quote from: Sanchez Stands With Rand! on May 23, 2015, 05:56:38 PM
Quote from: maxwell on May 23, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: Snowstalker on May 23, 2015, 04:43:16 PM
The worst members of Congress are invariably the most "bipartisan" ones.

Now that's just true.
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Snowstalker's dead right on this one.

Absolutely no)))
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2015, 12:22:58 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Illini on May 23, 2015, 09:31:04 PM
It won't matter. Illinois isn't a bipartisan state, and certainly not in Presidential years.

Still Illinois somehow has Republican Governor. And Massachusetts and Maryland (even less bipartisan, by your measure) - too.... Maine reelected not only Republican, but very conservative Republican last year. And Vermont almost elected Republican last year (and would elect, if Scott ran. The same - Rhode Island if Avedisian would run.). Again will blame turnout only and say "Democrats almost do right"Huh Too simplistic..
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2015, 12:35:39 AM »
Those were in midterm yrs where Dem turnout was much lower.

The GOP party is more moderate at state level in the states you named. But, Jeb or Walker will be the nominee.

Certainly, Clinton will look moderate compared to them.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2015, 12:41:53 AM »
Quote from: OC on May 24, 2015, 12:35:39 AM
Those were in midterm yrs where Dem turnout was much lower.

The GOP party is more moderate at state level in the states you named. But, Jeb or Walker will be the nominee.

Certainly, Clinton will look moderate compared to them.

Agree with 2 last sentences, but, as i already said, i wouldn't blame every Democratic loss on turnout ONLY. Democratic party has it's share of bad politicians and Republican - it's share of talents. After all - even in 2010 no one expected Kirk to win. And i am not yet sure, that Duckworth will be so good a candidate as she seems now. And sadly, but there will be an accusations that she got her polical career going mostly because of tragic injuries sustained (not because of polical talent), and so on...
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2015, 12:44:13 AM »
« Edited: May 24, 2015, 12:48:02 AM by Wulfric »
Quote from: OC on May 24, 2015, 12:35:39 AM
Those were in midterm yrs where Dem turnout was much lower.

The GOP party is more moderate at state level in the states you named. But, Jeb or Walker will be the nominee.

Certainly, Clinton will look moderate compared to them.

Lepage is not a moderate and he won. He may have won even with Cutler not being on the ballot. He reached 48%, Cutler voters would have had to both turn out for a race without Cutler AND vote for Michaud by a true, over 60%, landslide for him to win.

Hogan is not much of a moderate in his views either, he simply promised not to touch a whole bunch of things to satisfy his state electorate.

Christie is no teapartier, but is bad at governing.

That leaves only Baker as a northern republican moderate governor who is good at governing.
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