The Conservative excuse of "it's the liberals fault!" may soon not hold water

[aktheden]

The GOP already control 69 out of 99 State Legislatures, 31 out of 50 Governorships and both branches of Congress. They also control a record amount of county and local offices. In spite of this, things are still generally bad at the state and local level...If you ask them they blame "liberals". The only major position left that is not in Conservative hands is the Presidency; surely the president cannot be blamed for issues at the state and local level, can he? Anyways, the way things are going, I think they take the WH in 2016...then at least, there will be no liberals left to blame......

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Reguardless; Dubya had presidency and control of Congress 6 out of 8 yrs; Dems dominated 2 years after Bush, only to see the GOP dominate House.

Senate is a parliament; bipartisan branch, where a supermajorty, not majority is needed.

The Economy has had its difficulties, and it wont end after Obama.

[Sumner 1868]

This tactic is meant for their base any nobody else, so I don't see it ever ceasing.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It is feasible that the GOP take control of govt, but not inevitable.

The states have had to deal with partial shutdowns, and we already had one in 2013.

[Indy Texas]

Notice that they've shifted away from promising to stop the "Democrat congress" to faceless organizations like the EPA that are never going to go away and do not come and go with elections.

[RFayette]

Notice that they've shifted away from promising to stop the "Democrat congress" to faceless organizations like the EPA that are never going to go away and do not come and go with elections.

To be fair, the EPA is an executive agency, so it's not surprising they would shift to criticism of a branch controlled by the executive.


All partisans love to blame the other side; this is nothing new.

[Indy Texas]

Notice that they've shifted away from promising to stop the "Democrat congress" to faceless organizations like the EPA that are never going to go away and do not come and go with elections.

To be fair, the EPA is an executive agency, so it's not surprising they would shift to criticism of a branch controlled by the executive.


All partisans love to blame the other side; this is nothing new.

Yes, but the GOP disagrees with the very notion that the environment should be protected at all. Lest we forget that Christine Todd Whitman's big mid-2000s falling out with her party happened after they got mad at her for doing her job as EPA administrator rather than simply sitting on her hands and allowing oil companies and heavy industry to do as they pleased.

[RFayette]

Notice that they've shifted away from promising to stop the "Democrat congress" to faceless organizations like the EPA that are never going to go away and do not come and go with elections.

To be fair, the EPA is an executive agency, so it's not surprising they would shift to criticism of a branch controlled by the executive.


All partisans love to blame the other side; this is nothing new.

Yes, but the GOP disagrees with the very notion that the environment should be protected at all. Lest we forget that Christine Todd Whitman's big mid-2000s falling out with her party happened after they got mad at her for doing her job as EPA administrator rather than simply sitting on her hands and allowing oil companies and heavy industry to do as they pleased.

Of course; when a party has its geographic base concentrated in areas with an economy dominated by extractive industries, the environment is going to be just about last on their priorities.  

[CountryClassSF]

Nonsense .

[Skill and Chance]

At this point, that's the way I look at it, too.  They have basically taken over the downballot pipeline now.  Let them do whatever they want for 2-4 years and they will tick off one of their constituencies enough for some geographic realignment, just in time for 2021 redistricting.  The only thing holding me back on hoping for this is Ginsburg/Kennedy/Scalia being ~80 today.

[Mr. Illini]

Clearly you aren't familiar with conservative talking points over the last, oh, 70 years.

It is always the fault of the liberals, no matter how much control the GOP has.

[dead0man]

You guys are acting like your side doesn't do the exact same freaking thing.....again.

[Mr. Illini]

You guys are acting like your side doesn't do the exact same freaking thing.....again.

Not nearly to the extent, as evidenced that the word "conservative" hasn't been turned into a sort of curse word like the word "liberal" has.

[RFayette]

You guys are acting like your side doesn't do the exact same freaking thing.....again.

Not nearly to the extent, as evidenced that the word "conservative" hasn't been turned into a sort of curse word like the word "liberal" has.

Sure but "Republican" does.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Don't worry, there's always the courts, media, Hollywood, universities, unions, UN, city local governments, environmentalists, agitators, advocacy groups etc. to blame.

[aktheden]

You guys are acting like your side doesn't do the exact same freaking thing.....again.

But you guys control everything now...so why still blame liberals?

[ElectionsGuy]

You guys are acting like your side doesn't do the exact same freaking thing.....again.

But you guys control everything now...so why still blame liberals?

You realize that conservatives can still criticize liberals over things that they do control? Just because they have a majority of Congress and state/local officeholders doesn't mean they can't criticize, say, the California state legislature or the governor of New York. I mean liberals literally wouldn't stop complaining about Republicans in the house from 2011-2015.

[aktheden]

You guys are acting like your side doesn't do the exact same freaking thing.....again.

But you guys control everything now...so why still blame liberals?

You realize that conservatives can still criticize liberals over things that they do control? Just because they have a majority of Congress and state/local officeholders doesn't mean they can't criticize, say, the California state legislature or the governor of New York. I mean liberals literally wouldn't stop complaining about Republicans in the house from 2011-2015.

The point is you guys have the power...why not use it to overturn all the nasty "liberal" laws and make all those states and counties Conservative utopia..after all, Kansas is doing just that!

[dead0man]

You guys are acting like your side doesn't do the exact same freaking thing.....again.

But you guys

I ain't on that side either

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they obviously don't

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who else would they blame?

[DC Al Fine]

Partisans don't like the other side. News at 11.

[TJ in Oregon]

The generic blame almost always falls on whoever controls the presidency regardless of whose fault it is and who controls whatever else.

[TheElectoralBoobyPrize]

By this same token, can't the GOP also take some credit for the improving economy?

I mean when Dems controlled Congress and a majority of governorships for the last two years of Bush's presidency, things didn't turn out so well, but they still blamed everything on Bush.

The generic blame almost always falls on whoever controls the presidency regardless of whose fault it is and who controls whatever else.

This. Almost all Americans know the party of the president...not as many know who controls Congress or the majority of governorships/

[aktheden]

By this same token, can't the GOP also take some credit for the improving economy?

I mean when Dems controlled Congress and a majority of governorships for the last two years of Bush's presidency, things didn't turn out so well, but they still blamed everything on Bush.

The generic blame almost always falls on whoever controls the presidency regardless of whose fault it is and who controls whatever else.

This. Almost all Americans know the party of the president...not as many know who controls Congress or the majority of governorships/

Bush was blamed because he spent trillions on a stupid and pointless war....and as for given the GOP credit? LOL...they have obstructed Obama at every piont, even going as far as the govt shutdown...credit? Surely you jest..

[dead0man]

So, what you're saying is......"it's the conservatives fault!"? 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Reguardless; Dubya had presidency and control of Congress 6 out of 8 yrs; Dems dominated 2 years after Bush, only to see the GOP dominate House.

Um I realize Jim Jeffords is departed now, but ever since 2006, the Democrats have seemingly buried the little historical footnote where Jumpin Jim switch caucuses and handed the keys to Tom Daschle and Harry Reid for two years in the Senate.