Opinion of the Marshall Plan

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Your thoughts?

[ingemann]

Mostly FP, it was beneficial to Europe which got much needed influx of capital and industrial products, and it was beneficial to USA as it helped develop American peace time industry and outcompeted a lot of European products.

[TNF]

Great idea that should have been extended to the USSR and the rest of what would become the Warsaw Pact countries, but wasn't of course because it was designed to undermine said bloc. I do think it's a successful model of the kind of thing that the US should ideally be doing abroad, but of course, so long as capitalism is the order of the day, it won't do anything like it again unless a viable ideological opponent emerges (ala the USSR).

[bedstuy]

Great idea that should have been extended to the USSR and the rest of what would become the Warsaw Pact countries, but wasn't of course because it was designed to undermine said bloc. I do think it's a successful model of the kind of thing that the US should ideally be doing abroad, but of course, so long as capitalism is the order of the day, it won't do anything like it again unless a viable ideological opponent emerges (ala the USSR).

The USSR took care of itself by pillaging Eastern Europe though. 

[Cranberry]

Great idea that should have been extended to the USSR and the rest of what would become the Warsaw Pact countries, but wasn't of course because it was designed to undermine said bloc. I do think it's a successful model of the kind of thing that the US should ideally be doing abroad, but of course, so long as capitalism is the order of the day, it won't do anything like it again unless a viable ideological opponent emerges (ala the USSR).

It actually was. The offer was extended to every European country, including the Warsaw Pact nations and the USSR. In the case of Czechosvakia and Poland, they were forced to retreat by the Russians after they initially showed interest in joining the Marshall Plan. Yugoslavia joined the Marshall Plan after Tito broke with the USSR, and received help just as any other country, despite being communist.

[TDAS04]

FP. 

[windjammer]

Great idea that should have been extended to the USSR and the rest of what would become the Warsaw Pact countries, but wasn't of course because it was designed to undermine said bloc. I do think it's a successful model of the kind of thing that the US should ideally be doing abroad, but of course, so long as capitalism is the order of the day, it won't do anything like it again unless a viable ideological opponent emerges (ala the USSR).

Well, the americans proposed it to the Communist bloc. Poland and Czechoslovakia initially accepted it. But the USSR forced them to reject later.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Horrible Plan.

[Zioneer]

Probably one of the greatest moves of the entire Cold War.

[Sumner 1868]

Probably one of the greatest moves of the entire Cold War.

[SATW]

Probably one of the greatest moves of the entire Cold War.

This. One of the greatest decisions the U.S. ever made.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Probably one of the greatest moves of the entire Cold War.

This. One of the greatest decisions the U.S. ever made.

[Dr. Cynic]

Horrible Plan.

How? It actually worked.

[Potus]

Horrible Plan.

Ok I'll assume you don't really know much about it.

Some vague notion of America *actually* being the bad guy some how. Stay home, intervention is evil.

[AggregateDemand]

Liberals support the Marshall Plan for the rest of the world, but death by social entitlements for the US. The lack of self-awareness is almost comedic.

Republican Strategy for 2016: Ask Democrats what we should do to help out overseas. Force Democrats to support the same programs at home. Before you know it, we'll have jobs, infrastructure, education, medical care/insurance, and no need for the Garbage Society.

[Cory]

Great idea that should have been extended to the USSR and the rest of what would become the Warsaw Pact countries, but wasn't of course because it was designed to undermine said bloc. I do think it's a successful model of the kind of thing that the US should ideally be doing abroad, but of course, so long as capitalism is the order of the day, it won't do anything like it again unless a viable ideological opponent emerges (ala the USSR).

Honestly the only way to do this is have Beria maintain power in 1953.

[RINO Tom]

Stunning someone could vote Horrible Plan...

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Basically an opportunity for Americans to give themselves credit for a recovery created by Europeans.

[Lief 🗽]

HP: american should never intervene in the affairs of foreign nations, gerge warshington told me so.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Basically an opportunity for Americans to give themselves credit for a recovery created by Europeans.

Uh, what.

[Antonio the Sixth]

One of the best things to ever happen to Europe.

[dead0man]

Great idea that should have been extended to the USSR and the rest of what would become the Warsaw Pact countries, but wasn't of course because it was designed to undermine said bloc. I do think it's a successful model of the kind of thing that the US should ideally be doing abroad, but of course, so long as capitalism is the order of the day, it won't do anything like it again unless a viable ideological opponent emerges (ala the USSR).

The USSR took care of itself by pillaging Eastern Europe though. 

It actually was. The offer was extended to every European country, including the Warsaw Pact nations and the USSR. In the case of Czechosvakia and Poland, they were forced to retreat by the Russians after they initially showed interest in joining the Marshall Plan. Yugoslavia joined the Marshall Plan after Tito broke with the USSR, and received help just as any other country, despite being communist.

They did extend it to the USSR lol, the USSR rejected it.

do the kids still say "pwnd"?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Probably one of the greatest moves of the entire Cold War.

This. One of the greatest decisions the U.S. ever made.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Great idea that should have been extended to the USSR and the rest of what would become the Warsaw Pact countries, but wasn't of course because it was designed to undermine said bloc. I do think it's a successful model of the kind of thing that the US should ideally be doing abroad, but of course, so long as capitalism is the order of the day, it won't do anything like it again unless a viable ideological opponent emerges (ala the USSR).

The USSR took care of itself by pillaging Eastern Europe though. 

It actually was. The offer was extended to every European country, including the Warsaw Pact nations and the USSR. In the case of Czechosvakia and Poland, they were forced to retreat by the Russians after they initially showed interest in joining the Marshall Plan. Yugoslavia joined the Marshall Plan after Tito broke with the USSR, and received help just as any other country, despite being communist.

They did extend it to the USSR lol, the USSR rejected it.

do the kids still say "pwnd"?

Wow, I can't believe TNF genuinely didn't know that. I thought it was common knowledge.

[© tweed]

it was designed to build the post-WW2 Europe business interests wanted to see.  barring interference, parties loyal to Stalin may have been democratically elected (and almost were in Italy, and may have been without CIA interference).

if it was done simply out of good nature they would've given money to the USSR too, which sustained almost incomprehensible losses during WW2.