Who should Hillary Clinton pick as her VP? FINAL ROUND
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Question: Who should Hillary Clinton pick as her VP?
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Martin Heinrich (NM)
 
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Tim Kaine (VA)
 
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« on: May 26, 2015, 02:10:27 AM »

The result from this final round will be revealed when the poll ends in 4 days.

Who should Hillary Clinton pick as her VP? Every 4 days the candidates with the lowest votes will be removed. The first candidate to 50% wins. In this round, you can vote for 1 candidate.

Results from last week: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=213243.0

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Tim Kaine (VA)        (39.5%)
Martin Heinrich (NM)     (32.1%)

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Julian Castro (TX)     (28.4%)
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2015, 02:19:58 AM »

Martin Heinrich
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2015, 03:05:27 AM »

Not a big fan of Heinrich, but he didn't lose 63 House seats, so this is pretty easy.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2015, 05:10:14 AM »

I'm expecting the anti-Kaine votes to coalesce around Heinrich.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2015, 07:22:55 AM »

yes, pick the random dude from a strategically unimportant state with a republican governor that will pick the replacement
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2015, 07:24:40 AM »

Kaine. He has classic appeal. He won't embarrass the ticket.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 08:37:05 AM »

Castro
Kaine
Heinrich

Strongly support Castro; due to competetiveness of SW and FL; but Kaine will be second choice.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 09:07:13 AM »

Castro
Kaine
Heinrich

Strongly support Castro; due to competetiveness of SW and FL; but Kaine will be second choice.

Castro wouldn't help her much (especially not with Cuban Americans) in FL if Rubio is on the ticket. And NM/NV are lean/safe Democratic anyway. AZ will not be competitive. So? 

Heinrich (obvs)
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2015, 10:10:25 AM »

I'm expecting the anti-Kaine votes to coalesce around Heinrich.

yes, the pro-competence brigade.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2015, 10:27:53 AM »
« Edited: May 26, 2015, 10:29:56 AM by OC »

Castro
Kaine
Heinrich

Strongly support Castro; due to competetiveness of SW and FL; but Kaine will be second choice.

Castro wouldn't help her much (especially not with Cuban Americans) in FL if Rubio is on the ticket. And NM/NV are lean/safe Democratic anyway. AZ will not be competitive. So?  

FL will be competitive. With the Senate race. It isnt lean GOP. Rubio had low approvals in FL, so Castro will be my pick. Thats why he retired in first place. Hilary can win FL.

Heinrich is busy as chairman of House races

Kaine will obviously cause a GOP pickup.

I still support Castro.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2015, 11:19:49 AM »

Kaine
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2015, 01:40:46 PM »

Kaine seems to be the safest and most likely pick, but would be pretty boring. Castro is a bit of a wildcard, and unlikely to be chosen. Heinrich is young, male, and doesn't seem very bland. His seat would be filled temporarily by a Republican, but it is New Mexico after all, and a special election would probably return Democrats to the seat. Switching my pick from Castro to Heinrich.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2015, 01:46:48 PM »

Both are awful choices, but Heinrich
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2015, 03:04:39 PM »

yes, pick the random dude from a strategically unimportant state with a republican governor that will pick the replacement

This.

Voted Kaine.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2015, 04:23:14 PM »
« Edited: May 26, 2015, 04:24:53 PM by Likely Voter »

I seriously don't get the Henrich thing. Can someone articulate what boost he brings to the ticket or the possible Clinton admin?

As before I vote for the Virginians (Kaine or Warner). If one of them can bump VA to D+2 (which is reasonable), it puts the GOP in a serious bind.

Castro is also an interesting possibility as there is substantial Hispanic vote in FL, CO and NV. He can also appeal to the youngs as much as Henrich. But if they really want him then they should start vetting/prepping him now to avoid any chance of a Palin situation. He needs to spend the next year going on MTP, doing national speeches, etc. to show he is serious contender.
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2015, 04:46:42 PM »

Not a big fan of Heinrich, but he didn't lose 63 House seats, so this is pretty easy.
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2015, 05:43:11 PM »

Not a big fan of Heinrich, but he didn't lose 63 House seats, so this is pretty easy.

That's ridiculous that's more of Pelosi's fault than Kaine's is DWS personally responsible for loosing 14 House seats and 9 Senate seats? The economy was in the dumps Pelosi/Obama pushed through unpopular bills and turnout dropped none of this is Kaine's fault.
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2015, 05:49:42 PM »

I seriously don't get the Henrich thing. Can someone articulate what boost he brings to the ticket or the possible Clinton admin?

As before I vote for the Virginians (Kaine or Warner). If one of them can bump VA to D+2 (which is reasonable), it puts the GOP in a serious bind.

Castro is also an interesting possibility as there is substantial Hispanic vote in FL, CO and NV. He can also appeal to the youngs as much as Henrich. But if they really want him then they should start vetting/prepping him now to avoid any chance of a Palin situation. He needs to spend the next year going on MTP, doing national speeches, etc. to show he is serious contender.
Heinrich has classic appeal. He's safe. He won't make waves. Can you see Heinrich do anything stupid. I think Heinrich would be one of the most powerful vice presidents this country has ever seen. A Heinrich vice presidency would be powerful. He has Western appeal, and that may be crucial in November 2016.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2015, 06:36:16 PM »

Heinrich underperformed Obama by several points in NM (51-45) while Kaine ran two points ahead of Obama in a key swing state and is fluent in Spanish while Heinrich is not. Kaine can go on Univion/Telemundo to counter a candidate Rubio and can still appeal to Midwesterners at the same time. Not to mention Kaine's replacement is assured to be a Dem whereas Heinrich's would be an R, and if the Senate is 50/50 it wouldn't be such a good choice then.
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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2015, 06:38:59 PM »

Not a big fan of Heinrich, but he didn't lose 63 House seats, so this is pretty easy.

in fact his seat was one of the few GOP targets that the Democrats managed to defend that year.
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2015, 07:39:19 PM »
« Edited: May 26, 2015, 07:57:42 PM by Likely Voter »

Heinrich has classic appeal. He's safe. He won't make waves. Can you see Heinrich do anything stupid.
All the same could be said for Kaine (and Warner). Both are both 'safe' and arguably safer than Henrich as both have also been governors so have exec experience.

He has Western appeal, and that may be crucial in November 2016.

NM is already safe for Dems and I don't see how he would have any reach to boost CO or NV, I doubt most have even heard of him. If you want someone to help in CO then pick someone from CO. And again Kaine (and Warner) would clearly have more effect on a battleground (VA).


So again Kaine is the much more strategic bet, and that doesn't even count the temporary loss of a Senate seat (and risk of losing it for longer)
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2015, 07:42:57 PM »

=is DWS personally responsible for loosing 14 House seats and 9 Senate seats?

Well some people would say so.
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2015, 07:54:24 PM »

yes, pick the random dude from a strategically unimportant state with a republican governor that will pick the replacement

This.

Voted Kaine.
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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2015, 09:07:29 PM »

It's not Tim Kaine's fault that the environment was brutal for Dems in 2010.

It is however Debbie Wasserman Schultz's fault that 2014 was such a disaster.
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2015, 11:57:24 PM »

Kaine.
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