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« Reply #1725 on: June 24, 2016, 10:00:53 AM »

If the people of Scotland wish to leave the UK and Join the EU, then that's their democratic will, after all they voted by over 60% to stay and it's not right to be pulled out if they didn't want to.

Does this apply to the apply to the people of Northern Ireland as well, then?

No because Northern Ireland has two nations, not one, and have chosen to govern by conensus. Completely different political culture to Scotland and indeed the rest of the UK.

A major reason that the NI settlement worked is that membership of the EU made open borders with the South possible.

With Brexit, suddenly we are back to the dynamics of the 70s/80s, except with the looming prospect of a republican Catholic majority.

I am currently banking on Scotland, NI and London all breaking away and forming the new nation of NILonS. Smiley

The rump England and Wales would be in an economic state if that happened.
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« Reply #1726 on: June 24, 2016, 10:37:39 AM »

When economic shocks happen, it's always the little guy who suffers you fool.
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« Reply #1727 on: June 24, 2016, 10:54:14 AM »

So, when they are going to bring back hanging?
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« Reply #1728 on: June 24, 2016, 11:07:18 AM »

   So, what happened with the block of districts from Stroud in the west to Chiltern in the east that all went for Remain.  Was this expected? Is this the greater Oxford educational industrial complex effect?
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« Reply #1729 on: June 24, 2016, 11:08:07 AM »


But Brown Line told me nothing bad would happen Cry
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« Reply #1730 on: June 24, 2016, 11:11:14 AM »


I thought as a Bernie supporter you'd be happy to see a major bank clearing out.
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« Reply #1731 on: June 24, 2016, 11:22:30 AM »

I keep thinking about the queen. During her rule she witnissed the entire process of European integration. From the EEG to the EU. And now the Brexit. What would she think now...
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« Reply #1732 on: June 24, 2016, 11:37:34 AM »

I keep thinking about the queen. During her rule she witnissed the entire process of European integration. From the EEG to the EU. And now the Brexit. What would she think now...

She's addressing the Scottish parliament next week.
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« Reply #1733 on: June 24, 2016, 11:43:14 AM »

I keep thinking about the queen. During her rule she witnissed the entire process of European integration. From the EEG to the EU. And now the Brexit. What would she think now...

She's addressing the Scottish parliament next week.

They should acclaim her as a Queen of Scotland. In fact, she should be explicitly offered to move to Balmoral, or, at least, to appoint William as a resident Viceroy.

Scots should take the position that it is England that is seceding, not them.
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« Reply #1734 on: June 24, 2016, 11:57:13 AM »

Anybody who thinks Ted Cruz has the most punchable face in politics never saw Nigel Farage.
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« Reply #1735 on: June 24, 2016, 12:22:23 PM »

Speaking of Farage,  he just campaigned his way out of a job, right?
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« Reply #1736 on: June 24, 2016, 12:24:25 PM »

Speaking of Farage,  he just campaigned his way out of a job, right?

Yeah, and therefore his salary and expenses. Undoubtedly he'll try to run for a constituency in the next general election. He might run in a by-election if it's possible for him to win.

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« Reply #1737 on: June 24, 2016, 12:35:24 PM »

when ever people vote against elitists/globalists stock market collapse. stockbrokers are such a pu$$ies, imagine them at the front line... pathetic.
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« Reply #1738 on: June 24, 2016, 12:35:40 PM »

I don't care why I should care about globalists finances, and their spitefulness over common people.

If you do not care, whether you eat or not, you shouldn't.
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« Reply #1739 on: June 24, 2016, 12:36:33 PM »

when ever people vote against elitists/globalists stock market collapse. stockbrokers are such a pu$$ies, imagine them at the front line... pathetic.

I mean, you must have imagined yourself at the front line. Why wouldn't you go there?
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« Reply #1740 on: June 24, 2016, 01:25:23 PM »

Good map (in German, but still):

http://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/DHW8S/2/?fs=1
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« Reply #1741 on: June 24, 2016, 01:39:11 PM »

So, highest Remain vote shares. Places I really feel sorry for.

Gibraltar 95.9%
Lambeth 78.6%
Hackney 78.5%
Foyle 78.3%
Haringey 75.6%
City of London 75.3%
Islington 75.2%
Wandsworth 75.0%
Camden 74.9%
City of Edinburgh 74.4%
East Renfrewshire 74.3%
Belfast West 74.1%
Cambridge 73.8%
Southwark 72.8%
East Dunbartonshire 71.4%
Oxford 70.3%
Hammersmith and Fulham 70.0%
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« Reply #1742 on: June 24, 2016, 01:46:53 PM »

Even as a Brixiter it feels a bit unreal today.

Only for a brief few days in early June did I think Leave could win when several opinion polls showed large Brexit leads.

By the weekend that had changed and continued to change during this week so I was confident that Remain would win the day in the end.

As early as the Newcastle and Sunderland results it looked promising for Leave and apart for results in Scotland and London the results were a consistent Brexit majority in most polling areas.

As Janet Daly said on Dateline London following President Obama's intervention and the subsequent negative reaction to it by British voters "history shows that the British are a resilient lot and refuse to be bullied".

Not understanding that character trait of the British people was one of the main errors of the Cameron and Osborne campaign strategy.

And so it proved last night Smiley
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« Reply #1743 on: June 24, 2016, 01:56:21 PM »

Even as a Brixiter it feels a bit unreal today.

Only for a brief few days in early June did I think Leave could win when several opinion polls showed large Brexit leads.

By the weekend that had changed and continued to change during this week so I was confident that Remain would win the day in the end.

As early as the Newcastle and Sunderland results it looked promising for Leave and apart for results in Scotland and London the results were a consistent Brexit majority in most polling areas.

As Janet Daly said on Dateline London following President Obama's intervention and the subsequent negative reaction to it by British voters "history shows that the British are a resilient lot and refuse to be bullied".

Not understanding that character trait of the British people was one of the main errors of the Cameron and Osborne campaign strategy.

And so it proved last night Smiley
You really think Obama had anything do with the result?
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« Reply #1744 on: June 24, 2016, 02:01:02 PM »

Even as a Brixiter it feels a bit unreal today.

Only for a brief few days in early June did I think Leave could win when several opinion polls showed large Brexit leads.

By the weekend that had changed and continued to change during this week so I was confident that Remain would win the day in the end.

As early as the Newcastle and Sunderland results it looked promising for Leave and apart for results in Scotland and London the results were a consistent Brexit majority in most polling areas.

As Janet Daly said on Dateline London following President Obama's intervention and the subsequent negative reaction to it by British voters "history shows that the British are a resilient lot and refuse to be bullied".

Not understanding that character trait of the British people was one of the main errors of the Cameron and Osborne campaign strategy.

And so it proved last night Smiley
You really think Obama had anything do with the result?
Obama is one of the most recognisable faces of the elite, globalist establishment. It's not out of the question, however minor.
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« Reply #1745 on: June 24, 2016, 02:03:01 PM »

It's just another addition to the long list of Obama's foreign policy failures.
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« Reply #1746 on: June 24, 2016, 02:03:51 PM »

Even as a Brixiter it feels a bit unreal today.

Only for a brief few days in early June did I think Leave could win when several opinion polls showed large Brexit leads.

By the weekend that had changed and continued to change during this week so I was confident that Remain would win the day in the end.

As early as the Newcastle and Sunderland results it looked promising for Leave and apart for results in Scotland and London the results were a consistent Brexit majority in most polling areas.

As Janet Daly said on Dateline London following President Obama's intervention and the subsequent negative reaction to it by British voters "history shows that the British are a resilient lot and refuse to be bullied".

Not understanding that character trait of the British people was one of the main errors of the Cameron and Osborne campaign strategy.

And so it proved last night Smiley
You really think Obama had anything do with the result?

Has it really been so long that you have forgotten that Obama is the antichrist? He's a Muslim socialist, and you know that a Muslim socialist would never have electoral success in the uk..
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« Reply #1747 on: June 24, 2016, 02:07:30 PM »

Man some people are just plain dumb.
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« Reply #1748 on: June 24, 2016, 03:24:54 PM »

Any chance that Parliament won't come up with the votes necessary to enact Article 50?

If so, what happens then?  Mass chaos? 
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« Reply #1749 on: June 24, 2016, 03:55:17 PM »

Any chance that Parliament won't come up with the votes necessary to enact Article 50?

If so, what happens then?  Mass chaos? 

I'm sure a Brexiteer Prime Minister will whip it good.
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