United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

How wonderful... I wonder if anyone has done the calculations about the economic impacts of what happens when this clusterfeck actually comes to pass?

Congrats, morons.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

If it's true, enjoy your recession and unemployment spike. Frankly, the EU and Euro businesses should retreat from the UK if it gets up. This is about much more than the EU itself, how this hasn't filtered through is kind of remarkable... kind of cute that the UK thinks it's so important that there won't be REAL consequences to a 'leave' vote.

I actually don't think it'll happen. It'll be closer than it should be, but I think remain will just get up.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Hmmm... I'm going to say...

53.8% Remain.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Ipsos-MORI's final poll is 52 L 48 R. Not sure what the figures are when undecideds are included so can't include in the table.

The last Ipsos was 52R according to Twitter.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I feel like this'll be ridiculously close and the result won't be known for days. Remain to edge it if pushed.

I disagree... I think we'll know surprisingly quickly.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

No idea about the link, but the polls close at 10pm UK time.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Somebody asked over three hundred Edinburgh-area Grindr users their opinions on the referendum. Of these, Grindr User Stephen has pretty much my exact opinion.

Thank you for making my day with this.

This was epic.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Well, this is exactly the kind of patronising bullsh**t floating around my fb feed that eventually made me swing back to voting leave after briefly flirting with voting to remain (because I highly doubt that the referendum will be so close as to hinge on one vote). I mean, the idea that our leaving the EU will mean we cease to be a 'big player' (whatever that means) in the world is rather specious to say the least, given that we will continue to have one of the largest armies and independent nuclear deterrents in the west, one of the largest financial services centres in the world, a permanent seat on the UN Security Council and representation in the G8 and G20.

 As for being a 'big player' in Europe, I think our weak position in Europe has largely been exposed by this referendum campaign - Cameron's much vaunted renegotiation of our relationship with the EU turned out to be a damp squib, and even the 'concessions' extracted there are the absolute maximum that we'll be able to wring from the EU, according to Jean Claude Juncker at least. We've also signed away our control over our own trade policy as a member of the EU (a fact that, ironically, pushed me towards the Remain camp, as our existing trade deals through the EU will be rendered null and void by leaving) and control over various other areas of policy that should be in the hands of the British policy (although not to the extent that the Leave campaign has made out). We've always had what amounts to an adversarial relationship with the EU, remaining (correctly in my view) outside of key developments in that institution over the years (the Euro and Schengen to name but two), which has also reduced our influence in Europe, as we are correctly perceived as not being fully committed to the European project. This will not change in the aftermath of the referendum, one way or another.

Boiling important political discussion down to silly and patronising memes isn't really helpful, especially when those memes put across points that are basically blatant fabrications.

You changed your vote because of Facebook memes?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Eeeep...

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

When is Sunderland coming up?

Does it matter? We know it's going to be ugly...

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

A few more results and I think we can call it for Leave.

Awful, seems like the actual project fear might have done it. But I will wait for while before that.

But it's still way too early.

Sunderland was NOT expected to be 53-47

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

South Tyneside

Leave 62%
Remain 38%

GREAT news for Leave.  South Tyneside is a strong Labour area.

Working-class Labor voters in industrial areas are among those most supporting leave. This is no shock.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

RIP the pound, RIP the City of London.

They were good while they lasted.

I am not sure a leave decision is negative on the long run.  I agree on the short run there will be economic dislocation. 

I have yet to see a good rationale as to why London will remain a major financial center if trade and service barriers are reimposed on England as most of the European heads of state have said they would be.

The idea that London is the economic capital, just because it is, is nuts. The connection to European markets is one of THE key reasons why the shift back to London from Frankfurt happened, and why those international markets will shift back to the continent.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Dundee 60-40

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Isn't NI supposed to be pro-remain?

That part of NI is heavily Unionist, which backed leave.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Was against Scotland declaring their independence last year, but if they overwhelmingly vote to remain in while England stupidly votes out, they should immediately call for new independence vote which I would support.

I thought exactly the same thing today. Why should they get driven off a cliff?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Yeah this might not even be close.  Wow.

Noting that NOTHING in London is in yet. Calm people.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Hot damn. It seems like it's happening. I hope my friends and I will go drunk not only on beer and wine tonight, but also on champagne. But it's still early.

While they can still afford it.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

Indeed. Freedom for higher unemployment, deflation, wages drops... yay.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

They must also love the collapse in their economy.

You really dont understand the arguments. Back to project fear. Britons just never will be slaves!

Except 'project fear' is their spin for not having answers to legitimate question about the already emerging economic consequences. The real project fear was the leave campaign fanning the flames of xenophobia in order to win.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

They must also love the collapse in their economy.

You really dont understand the arguments. Back to project fear. Britons just never will be slaves!

Hopefully this means further integration for the remainder of Europe now that they are not weighed down by the UK.

Hardly,
 

Means Right parties from Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, France and others gain support.

Mama Merkel is surely going to pay for invinting 2 million guests to someone elses home.

And now the nazi!

Lol at Extreme Leftie hahahhah, go get checked. Nazis killed my Great grandparents for being Slavs so please, you are not fit to comment on this.



When/if Brexit happens, Strache/Le Pen will have a field day with this.

So, he's just a good old fascist.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Wigan nearly wipes out the Remain margin. Still very even. I wonder how English big cities other than London will go.

Birmingham, Liverpool, (maybe Manchester city) and the rest of London.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Islington
75-25 remain

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Lol, there's still plenty of votes to go. It could go either way, there's still a lot of London, Birmingham is  a biggie, Edinburgh and Cardiff still outstanding plus the S/W isn't as anti-Europe and the S/E has been.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

We're not even over 50% of places yet, with a margin that can be easily flipped, lol.

I think leave absolutely has an advantage here, but c'mon people.

Merkel is seeing her dream of a fourth Reich crumble before her eyes

That's, quite frankly one of the most ridiculous things I've read in this thread.