Huckabee/Santorum

[Suburbia]

How would voters and the electoral map react to this Republican ticket, if it ever happens next summer?

[Rockefeller GOP]

By not voting for it.

[Skye]

By not voting for it.

[SteveRogers]

Poorly.

[ElectionsGuy]

By not voting for it.

[© tweed]

a good way to get Hillary to about 55% nationally

[CountryClassSF]

How would voters and the electoral map react to this Republican ticket, if it ever happens next summer?

A Reaganesque victory uniting the Upper Midwest, South, and Rust Belt

[The Other Castro]

How would voters and the electoral map react to this Republican ticket, if it ever happens next summer?

A Reaganesque victory uniting the Upper Midwest, South, and Rust Belt

You mean like this?

I agree, quite Reaganesque.

[RFayette]

How would voters and the electoral map react to this Republican ticket, if it ever happens next summer?

A Reaganesque victory uniting the Upper Midwest, South, and Rust Belt

Um, no? 

[CountryClassSF]

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Yes. I'm being serious. Look, the single-issue social leftists are not a swing bloc.  They're never voting Republican.  This was proven cycle after cycle when moderates avoided these issues like the plague and the numbers if anything shifted away from us.

Huckabee and Santorum's blue collar backgrounds help connect them with certain types of voters that have stayed home in recent cycles. We're not talking about winning New York and California. We're not talking about winning in Washington DC. We're talking about running up the margins  in rural PA and rural OH and rural FL precincts. 

[RFayette]

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Yes. I'm being serious. Look, the single-issue social leftists are not a swing bloc.  They're never voting Republican.  This was proven cycle after cycle when moderates avoided these issues like the plague and the numbers if anything shifted away from us.

Huckabee and Santorum's blue collar backgrounds help connect them with certain types of voters that have stayed home in recent cycles. We're not talking about winning New York and California. We're not talking about winning in Washington DC. We're talking about running up the margins  in rural PA and rural OH and rural FL precincts. 

Most Americans don't believe Evangelicals are being persecuted; most Americans favor legalizing gay marriage; most Americans are not born-again Christians. 

The GOP already runs up the margins in rural PA/OH/FL.  They need to run up the margins in the suburban areas of those states to win.  You do that by being socially moderate and running a focused, disciplined campaign.

[Torie]

It puts Wyoming in play.

[© tweed]

It puts Wyoming in play.

I wonder what a midday 30 second spot goes for in the Cheyenne media market.

[CountryClassSF]

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Probably because they didn't read it in People Magazine or watch it on Bravo.  Run an ad showing what has happened to Christian bakeries.  Just because Santorum believes those things doesn't mean it's all he's about.

I remember in 2012, Santorum gave a speech on the economy. He was then asked about a social issue and he answered. Then he was asked why he talks so much about social issues. I don't see it in his speeches. He takes positions I like on these issues, but they are not the entire premise of his campaign.

[Blair]

Doesn't Huckabee support a pedophile? If HRC did this she'd be lynched

And please-Huckabee/Santorum are not only shameless socons but they're also pretty crap politicians who can will simply be seen as GOP crazies ( as much as I dislike Mccain/Christie/Bush/Romney you could at least say they were managerial types.

And please countryclassSF, like all failed political 'experts' your floor is that your analysis often supports your ideology. Heck I'm not even from the states and I seem more in touch with the country than you do

[RFayette]

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Probably because they didn't read it in People Magazine or watch it on Bravo.  Run an ad showing what has happened to Christian bakeries.  Just because Santorum believes those things doesn't mean it's all he's about.

I remember in 2012, Santorum gave a speech on the economy. He was then asked about a social issue and he answered. Then he was asked why he talks so much about social issues. I don't see it in his speeches. He takes positions I like on these issues, but they are not the entire premise of his campaign.

I think it's safe to say my political beliefs are far closer to the average American's than yours; if youo want a GOP win, you'd have to lock down voters like me and convince folks like King and ModerateVAVoter to support you.  That's just not happening with Huckabee/Santorum.

[RINO Tom]

CountryClass, you sound like you pretty much want the GOP to become a New Deal Coalition, LOL.  It's not happening.  Republicans don't want more fiscally populist policies (which is why I find it priceless when you call others "RINOs").  You'd have as much luck fighting the similarly uphill battle of getting the Democrats to embrace social conservatism.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Such a ticket would have some appeal to me.  I'm a socially conservative Democrat who has registered as a Republican and votes independently.  I realize I'm part of a dying breed.

Most folks who are "independent" voters or "moderate" voters arrive at it the other way around.  They are economically conservative who are liberal on social issues and not particularly religious.  They are folks who are either not churchgoers, or who believe that one's faith should be something of a private matter (the opposite attitude of proselytizing Evangelicals, whose calling is to Evangelize).  These, I believe, are the REAL independent voters, and THEY, unfortunately, will be turned off by Huckabee-Santorum, especially after the Duggar thing and some of Santorum's exotic Catholic beliefs get the full media treatment.  (That Hillary Clinton reportedly "channeled" Eleanor Roosevelt through some sort of medium is more understandable to these folks, who are a bit New Agey.) 

It wouldn't be a Goldwater loss, but such a ticket would probably lose all of the 2012 Obama states plus Arizona.  The Democrats would also be competitive in Indiana, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alaska as well.

[Skye]

How would voters and the electoral map react to this Republican ticket, if it ever happens next summer?

A Reaganesque victory uniting the Upper Midwest, South, and Rust Belt

Sorry bro, not happening. And your analysis isn't close to the truth.