Opinion of Chinese nationalism?

[Beet]

The diaoyu islands are belong to Chinar...

[Lief 🗽]

All nationalism is bad, unless it is expressed ironically at a holiday BBQ or non-violently at a sporting competition.

[ElectionsGuy]

All nationalism = HI

[Sol]

All nationalism is bad, unless it is expressed ironically at a holiday BBQ or non-violently at a sporting competition.

[Zioneer]

Considering that belligerent Chinese nationalism on either side is the only reason Taiwan could ever be a flashpoint for war, it's not really a good idea. Taiwanese nationalism is superior in one respect; if both sides accept it, that makes the world a safer place.

Now Chinese history, sure, that's awesome, but Chinese nationalism, no so much.

[Redalgo]

Civic nationalism can be alright for the purpose of building solidarity within the territorial boundaries of ones country. Ethnic nationalism invites conflicts and entrenched perceptions of in-group superiority to outsiders, which is definitely "HI" material. What kind of Chinese nationalism are we talking about though? Is it the desire of some in the ROC to reunify with and assume control of the PRC, which is a ridiculous proposition, the tendency in the PRC for the Han nation to impose itself on minorities in much the way Russians did during the Soviet era elsewhere on the continent, or are we talking about something else?

If this is about the islands themselves it basically amounts to a resource-extraction-driven land dispute between an empire and two former empires, no? If the PRC wants to muscle it's way through to get its claim solidified I'm not really that dismayed or disappointed by it, and wouldn't consider it worthwhile to back Japan militarily in trying to reassert its claim. The fact these bits of rock are uninhabited makes it a lot less controversial for one of the parties involved to simply fling themselves out there militarily to end the dispute. It's not a great precedent to set, granted, but at least this is not a Falkland Islands sort of quarrel where the interests of residents are jeopardized by foreign interests.

[Ban my account ffs!]

I was told like 6,395 times not to meddle in domestic Chinese affairs...unfortunately the Chinese domicile seems to be encroaching on international and claimed lands.

[All Along The Watchtower]

I'm not Chinese, so why should I have an opinion on this?

[Beet]

I'm not Chinese, so why should I have an opinion on this?

So you don't have any opinions about politics in countries outside the United States?

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm not Chinese, so why should I have an opinion on this?

Oh come on.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

All nationalism is horrible.  But in fairness, Chiang Kai-Shek was leagues better than Mao.

[courts]

obviously not that bad. if you want proof look at all those clueless white suburbanites with free tibet bumper stickers

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

obviously not that bad. if you want proof look at all those clueless white suburbanites with free tibet bumper stickers

Even though there's far more to object to in China's treatment of Xinjiang.

[TNF]

obviously not that bad. if you want proof look at all those clueless white suburbanites with free tibet bumper stickers

Yep. If there's anything that Mao did right, it was crushing the religious despotism in Tibet.