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« on: May 26, 2015, 11:59:15 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2015, 12:30:23 AM »
Social Democrat at most...

Who is voting socialist?
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2015, 04:39:19 AM »
Social democrat. Believe me, I'm a social democrat here in Germany.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 04:51:25 AM »
It isn't as though the two are mutually exclusive: the term social democrat denotes a particular sort of socialist.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2015, 04:55:41 AM »
Quote from: Sibboleth on May 27, 2015, 04:51:25 AM
It isn't as though the two are mutually exclusive: the term social democrat denotes a particular sort of socialist.

That's true. In theory. But being a socialist means that you're totally against capitalism. But most european social democratic parties (like the German SPD, of which I am a member) are not against capitalism at all. At least not the more pragmatic wing.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2015, 05:28:23 AM »
I don't know why he used the word socialist, since he doesn't seem interested in ending capitalism. Maybe just to designate that's he's rather left-wing since in America that's what the term means.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2015, 05:48:08 AM »
Social Democrat but even that term is being generous
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2015, 06:04:56 AM »
He's a social democrat, as are most Democratic officeholders. They're just afraid to admit it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2015, 06:31:27 AM »
Quote from: Southern Legislator darthebearnc on May 27, 2015, 06:04:56 AM
He's a social democrat, as are most Democratic officeholders. They're just afraid to admit it.

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 10:44:07 AM »
He's a social democrat, but I imagine he doesn't want to confuse people who think "social democrat" just means a socially liberal Democrat.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 11:19:25 AM »
Isn't "social democrat" just another word for socialist?
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 11:47:48 AM »
It doesn't really matter because he's going to be a considered a socialist by the media and voters. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 11:55:43 AM »
Quote from: ExtremeRepublican on May 27, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
Isn't "social democrat" just another word for socialist?

Social democrats want regulations and large social safety nets, but they don't want to crush capitalism.
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 03:08:53 PM »
Quote from: Sibboleth on May 27, 2015, 04:51:25 AM
It isn't as though the two are mutually exclusive: the term social democrat denotes a particular sort of socialist.

this was true during the time of the Second International, I'm not so sure it's true now.  social democracy indicates a sort of concession to the existence of private property, and commitment to a strong welfare state.  a 'real socialist' would be committed to nationalizing key industries.  Sanders obviously would never try to do that.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 05:10:52 PM »
Quote from: Consciously Unconscious on May 27, 2015, 11:47:48 AM
It doesn't really matter because he's going to be a considered a socialist by the media and voters. 

Unfortunately this is the case. I can hear the McCarthy-esque fearmongering now...
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2015, 06:18:38 PM »
Quote from: ExtremeRepublican on May 27, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
Isn't "social democrat" just another word for socialist?
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2015, 04:36:03 PM »
Far left neoliberal warmonger.
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