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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2015, 02:49:49 PM »

Udall lost because Obama listened to the idiotic advice of Pryor and Hagan and chose not to act on immigration before the midterm elections.

Um, no. Immigration had nothing to do with it (if anything, bringing up that issue would have only hurt him more). Udall would have won had he not run a one-issue campaign. Cardner defeated an incumbent who was a great fit for the state by less than 2 points in a liberal swing state in a big GOP year, so..

How is that? Obama's actions are viewed favorably by the majority and would have increased enthusiasm and turnout among Hispanics.
It would be also another wedge issue for Udall to use against Gardner who would be in a bind: condemn Obama and infuriate Hispanics or say nothing and infuriate conservatives.
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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2015, 02:50:17 PM »

Udall lost because Obama listened to the idiotic advice of Pryor and Hagan and chose not to act on immigration before the midterm elections.

Um, no. Immigration had nothing to do with it (if anything, bringing up that issue would have only hurt him more). Udall would have won had he not run a one-issue campaign. Cardner defeated an incumbent who was a great fit for the state by less than 2 points in a liberal swing state in a big GOP year, so..

Agreed. Udall lost because he ran a terrible, awful campaign. Just like Walker is doing now.

While there's an outside chance Walker might be viable in some future primary, I think he's a loss for the 2016 cycle. Too much stupid and too much ego. The Walker campaign (such as it is) may (will) keep shambling on for a good while, but its not going anywhere.
I can see him as a labor secretary in a Republican administration
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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2015, 02:51:47 PM »

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Democrats gotta be careful. They're already at a disadvantage with the male vote, you don't wanna lose all of it.

There's a lot of awful things Scott Walker could say that you wouldn't have a problem with.
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2015, 02:58:47 PM »

So lemme get this straight...

Hillary Clinton has more baggage than U.S. Air...but that's fine.

A republican could be pro-life and say so publicly...and they're gonna lose in a landslide??

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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2015, 03:01:33 PM »

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Democrats gotta be careful. They're already at a disadvantage with the male vote, you don't wanna lose all of it.

There's a lot of awful things Scott Walker could say that you wouldn't have a problem with.

Hey, yappy, you were in diapers during the dog days of the Clinton years. I've been following this stuff a lot longer than you. Don't assume you know me.
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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2015, 03:03:38 PM »

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Democrats gotta be careful. They're already at a disadvantage with the male vote, you don't wanna lose all of it.

There's a lot of awful things Scott Walker could say that you wouldn't have a problem with.

Hey, yappy, you were in diapers during the dog days of the Clinton years. I've been following this stuff a lot longer than you. Don't assume you know me.

I know you well enough to dislike you.
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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2015, 03:10:15 PM »

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Democrats gotta be careful. They're already at a disadvantage with the male vote, you don't wanna lose all of it.

How does taking a stance against mandatory ultrasounds lose the male vote?
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« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2015, 03:14:38 PM »

this is just posturing... no federal government will be passing a mandatory ultrasound law.  he's trying to edge into the fundie vote that's always important in IA and SC
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« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2015, 03:44:31 PM »

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Democrats gotta be careful. They're already at a disadvantage with the male vote, you don't wanna lose all of it.

How does taking a stance against mandatory ultrasounds lose the male vote?

Naso dislikes when politicians talk about women's rights and thinks most American men agree with him.
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« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2015, 03:51:04 PM »

If it saves ONE life, it's worth it. Aint that what ya'll say when it comes to taking 2A rights from law abiding citizens away?

Ultrasounds serve to remind you that it's a LIVING BEING inside the womb, not a zygote, not a clump of cells-- and that scares the pro-abort brigade on the anti-science side.
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« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2015, 03:57:23 PM »

Honestly, Scott Walker should've just said, "Look.  I am pro-life, and I do believe abortion is very wrong and we must take steps to reduce it.  I do believe we should make it harder to obtain abortions, so I will take actions within the law to ensure that the right to life is protected by making people think before getting their abortions."  Something along those lines is more honest, and at a 50/50 issue, is probably better.   
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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2015, 04:00:02 PM »

This just shows that he is incredibly tone deaf when it comes to this issue. What he said was extremely patronizing to women, particularly young unmarried women where the GOP continually run into trouble.

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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2015, 04:03:07 PM »

Sounds like walker's finished amongst the crucial swing bloc of the cultural leftist vote
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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2015, 04:51:10 PM »

It amazes me still, that he is polling so well...
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2015, 05:02:18 PM »

If it saves ONE life, it's worth it. Aint that what ya'll say when it comes to taking 2A rights from law abiding citizens away?

Ultrasounds serve to remind you that it's a LIVING BEING inside the womb, not a zygote, not a clump of cells-- and that scares the pro-abort brigade on the anti-science side.

The only purpose it would serve is to help activist doctors to deliberately discourage women who know they can't have the child, for whatever reasons, from terminating the pregnancy.

Tell me, where do you stand on the use of condoms? Is it ungodly or against natural law?
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2015, 07:01:14 PM »

This just shows that he is incredibly tone deaf when it comes to this issue. What he said was extremely patronizing to women, particularly young unmarried women where the GOP continually run into trouble.

Walker's problem is that it's far from being "just this issue" that he's tone-deaf on.
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« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2015, 12:32:53 AM »

Let's be honest...this is about women who want an abortion not liking the guilt trip.  They're about to have a fetus scrambled and vacuumed out of their uterus ffs.

That Scott Walker jokes about it should be unsurprising.  There is nothing pretty about any of it.  Walker least of all.

But you have to look at it from the anti-abortion perspective.  If you believe it is murder of the innocent, then a ten inch probe that takes a picture of the fetus is a low price to pay.

The anti-abortionists only think of the fetus.  The pro-abortionists only think of the woman.

Personally, I am pro-choice.  I hope you choose not to have an abortion simply because of the harm it can do to the woman, let alone the fetus.  Adoption is far better imo as the child of an adopted mother and who knows someone very close that gave up a baby for adoption.  Birth control, condoms, other contraceptives...

Moving to sanity you are! Cheesy
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« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2015, 01:17:27 AM »

I don't see a gaffe here.  Saying ultrasound pictures are cool does not qualify as a gaffe.

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« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2015, 07:23:44 AM »

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Democrats gotta be careful. They're already at a disadvantage with the male vote, you don't wanna lose all of it.

Being pro-choice costs Democrats the male vote?

Must be why they won it in 2012.
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« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2015, 07:55:21 AM »

This is not surprising, as Walker is not the brightest bulb. I'm guessing that is why his public sector resume is so small.
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« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2015, 09:12:24 AM »

I like scott walker and think he would be a good nominee but something just keeps telling me he is going to blow it at some point. We will see though, hope i'm wrong.
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