NYT: Bernie Sanders has a "non-white problem"

[Bull Moose Base]

Maybe Sander's biggest problem is that he strongly selfidentify as a socialist?

According to Gallup's most recent numbers released today, only 47% of US adults say that they would even be willing to consider voting for a socialist. This is below every single denomation tested, including atheist (58%), Muslim (60%), evangelical Christian (surprisingly only 73%!), gay or lesbian (74%), Mormon (81%), Jewish (91%), Hispanic (91%), black (92%), woman (92%) and Catholic (93%). In other words, a socialist presidential candidate is the only one which not even a majority of American voters would be open to consider. What's perhaps just as bad for Sanders: Only 28% of selfproclaimed protestants would be willing to vote for a socialist.

Actually, less people would be willing to vote for a socialist today than the percentage who were willing to vote for a black or female candidate in 1960, the year when the first Catholic president was elected.

Strange they didn't ask for attitude towards Asian, Native American or biracial/multiracial candidates.

More here: http://www.gallup.com/poll/183791/support-nontraditional-candidates-varies-religion.aspx?utm_source=Politics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles

By the way, I wonder what percentage would be willing to support a black, female, Hispanic, socialistic atheist candidate for president?

Sanders is about as socialist as the guy who got elected 4 times. If he were nominated, people would listen to his positions and the % of Americans willing to vote for a "socialist" would skyrocket faster than the % of wealth going to the richest 1%.

In Vermont.

I meant FDR.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

He does resurrect the Howard Dean phenomenon. Latinos will embrace Sanders and Northern blacks, but southern blacks will have a hard time with him as nominee.

[eric82oslo]

Maybe Sander's biggest problem is that he strongly selfidentify as a socialist?

According to Gallup's most recent numbers released today, only 47% of US adults say that they would even be willing to consider voting for a socialist. This is below every single denomation tested, including atheist (58%), Muslim (60%), evangelical Christian (surprisingly only 73%!), gay or lesbian (74%), Mormon (81%), Jewish (91%), Hispanic (91%), black (92%), woman (92%) and Catholic (93%). In other words, a socialist presidential candidate is the only one which not even a majority of American voters would be open to consider. What's perhaps just as bad for Sanders: Only 28% of selfproclaimed protestants would be willing to vote for a socialist.

Actually, less people would be willing to vote for a socialist today than the percentage who were willing to vote for a black or female candidate in 1960, the year when the first Catholic president was elected.

Strange they didn't ask for attitude towards Asian, Native American or biracial/multiracial candidates.

More here: http://www.gallup.com/poll/183791/support-nontraditional-candidates-varies-religion.aspx?utm_source=Politics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles

By the way, I wonder what percentage would be willing to support a black, female, Hispanic, socialistic atheist candidate for president?

Sanders is about as socialist as the guy who got elected 4 times. If he were nominated, people would listen to his positions and the % of Americans willing to vote for a "socialist" would skyrocket faster than the % of wealth going to the richest 1%.

I like Bernie Sanders, actually I love him. But he's no Hillary Clinton. Not even a Jeb Bush. And most certainly not a Barack Obama. He's just no presidential material. There's hardly any presidential DNA in his body. Okey, if Hillary wasn't in the race, I'd probably support him, but next to her he really looks like a midget. Not just a human midget, but more like an ant or a bacteria. Lol. US voters will/would lover Bernie's policies, no question about it, the single problem is him. He looks like a grumpy old man from one of those popular Hollywood movies (I forgot the title). He looks like an anti-hero. Americans don't want an anti-hero as their president I believe. Although Germans has had an anti-heroine as prime minister for a decade already, so you never know.

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This doesn't seem like someone who should have trouble with black voters.

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http://time.com/3896500/bernie-sanders-vermont-campaign-radical/

[Tender Branson]

What an unbelievably patronising thread. Hardly any better than the "still on the plantation" rhetoric you hear from the right. The idea that black people will vote for someone just because you show people a couple of pictures of them and Jesse Jackson together is patently absurd and takes the audience for easily swayed simpletons.

Sanders himself said basically the same what I said:

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http://newsone.com/3137129/bernie-sanders-plan-to-win-african-american-votes-2016-presidential-election

And here is what I said:

Maybe his campaign should air a couple good ads in SC in Q4, with pictures of his civil rights activist sit-ins in the 1960s ? Maybe it attracts more blacks to his campaign.

That wouldn't work. Nothing would work, tbh. Clinton will crush the other Dems among Blacks.

I don't think it's impossible for Sanders to get a decent share of Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and Native-Americans.

But there need to be a few factors for this to happen: Sanders needs to continue to gain in the "white" states of IA and NH in the coming months, do well in the debates and then defeat Hillary in those 2 states.

At the same time, the Sanders people need to run a flawless campaign, targeted at minority voters in SC, FL and NV - with ads of him and his working class policies such as a good minimum wage and against big corporations and billionaires (while showing Hillary as a corporate enabler and an out-of-touch big-business type who's wealthy herself and therefore not like the average minority voter).

Maybe then he has a chance in the later primary states due to momentum ...

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In 1988, Bernie Sanders was one of the very few elected white officials to endorse Jesse Jackson. With his help, Jackson won the Vermont caucus.

[Ogre Mage]

And there's nothing he can do about the fact that living out his public career in the great state of Vermont has not prepared him for addressing the needs, interests, predilections, or concerns of most minorities in any really knowledgeable way.

Yes.  I actually posted this article earlier in the thread "How should Hillary respond to the Bernie challenge?"  David Axelrod notes:

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Clinton is no doubt aware of her experience and connections appealing to black, Latino and Asian voters and Sanders weakness in those areas.  Sanders is just uncomfortable and inexperienced at making identity politics appeals.  In minority political circles he's virtually unknown.  There's nothing wrong with that and much to admire about his run.  And the fact he's far ahead of O'Malley is notable.  But we should have no illusions about the limitations of his candidacy.  All Democrats know what happens when we fail to turn out minority voters.

[DS0816]

Bernie's politics appeal to upper middle class whites and no one else at this point.

Are you telling us your total assets are well into the millions?

[All Along The Watchtower]

For many Democratic constituencies, it actually makes a tangible difference whether a Democrat or a Republican is in the White House.

This isn't a surprise.

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Bernie sanders will win 100% of the minority vote in the GE