BREAKING SCANDAL - NYT say Rubio has had 4 traffic tickets in 18 years!
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« on: June 05, 2015, 02:33:32 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/05/marco-rubio-and-his-wife-cited-17-times-for-traffic-infractions-2/?_r=0

Benghazi? - Nothing to see here! - But 4 traffic tickets in 18 year...   stop the presses!
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 02:43:08 PM »


lol
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 02:46:05 PM »

Saving the good hit pieces for once he gets the nomination, no doubt.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 03:59:35 PM »

Nice try American Bridge.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2015, 04:20:34 PM »

Perhaps in a year's time, we'll find out that he once took two cookies instead of his allotted two in Kindergarten snack time.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2015, 04:26:44 PM »

How can we trust such an unsafe driver as President? Much prefer someone like Hillary who doesn't need to drive because they're a rich 1%er.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2015, 04:56:30 PM »

I'm surprised they're covering this and not the Corinthians thing King linked to........the $25 billion student-loan thing could be problematic.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 05:38:30 PM »

Don't compare this to the spurious attacks on Clinton from the NYT.  Having a charity foundation is a good thing, being a crazy driver is a bad thing.

Ultimately, do you care that someone is a lead-foot who almost had his driver's license revoked?  Not really.  It's kind of weird, but it's not a horrible, disqualifying thing.  But, like President Bush's DUI, it's relevant enough to write a story about.  If you run for President, all your dirty laundry gets aired. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 05:41:42 PM »

Both Marco Rubio and 'ol Hilldawg are dark, evil self-centered individuals at their core.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 05:43:21 PM »

Rubio is a greasy-looking cuban from south florida -- that he has had numerous run-ins with the law is hardly surprising.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 05:46:26 PM »

Only that many? In Miami, no less. Probably a good story for Rubio, though it does make him seem unrelatable.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 05:49:18 PM »

Benghazi is like the biggest fake scandal ever.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 06:02:58 PM »

Fear that I might be forced to be some iteration of this guy to pay the bills is one of the reasons I said no to all of my offers of admission to law school.

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2015, 06:05:41 PM »

I don't care about this "scandal". We're hiring a president, not a driver.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2015, 07:21:26 PM »

Don't compare this to the spurious attacks on Clinton from the NYT.  Having a charity foundation is a good thing, being a crazy driver is a bad thing.

Ultimately, do you care that someone is a lead-foot who almost had his driver's license revoked?  Not really.  It's kind of weird, but it's not a horrible, disqualifying thing.  But, like President Bush's DUI, it's relevant enough to write a story about.  If you run for President, all your dirty laundry gets aired. 

I agree, but a DUI is significantly more relevant because it shows a far more serious lack of integrity than sub-par driving skills.  Unless one of the tickets was really flagrant (like 50 mph in a school zone) it wouldn't show a similar lack of judgment/character as a DUI.  Nonetheless, it's worth spilling some ink over I suppose, given current journalistic standards.
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2015, 08:20:24 PM »

This seems like something Drudge would think was a news story.
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2015, 09:25:42 PM »

Don't compare this to the spurious attacks on Clinton from the NYT.  Having a charity foundation is a good thing, being a crazy driver is a bad thing.

Ultimately, do you care that someone is a lead-foot who almost had his driver's license revoked?  Not really.  It's kind of weird, but it's not a horrible, disqualifying thing.  But, like President Bush's DUI, it's relevant enough to write a story about.  If you run for President, all your dirty laundry gets aired.  

What lead foot?  Rubio was cited for careless driving when he was 26 - like many other males in their 20s.  He then got a speeding ticket in 2009, which he plead guilty to, and a red light camera ticket in 2011, which he successfully fought.  

Red light cameras are a money-making scourge that do little to reduce accidents.  Many tickets issued by them are for not coming to a complete stop at the line before turning right on red, not actually going through a red light - something that would rarely be ticketed by a cop because it's not very dangerous.  And his license was probably in jeopardy of getting suspended not because of the actual ticket, but because the car was registered to him and he didn't pay the ticket in time.  He might not have even gotten the first notice in the mail.  In fact, with a red light camera ticket, the ticket doesn't go on the driver's record in many states because it is impossible for the state to prove who was actually driving.  The ticket was ultimately dismissed, anyway.  Rubio then got a ticket in 2012 for rolling through a stop sign - a ticket which again, ultimately was dismissed.

So, in fact, Rubio actually was only convicted of a whopping 2 traffic infractions in 18 years - which is hardly out of the ordinary or newsworthy, and wouldn't put his license in any real danger of being suspended.  It does not make him a "crazy driver" - it makes him a pretty ordinary driver who occasionally gets a ticket or two.  That the New York Times lumped his tickets in with his wife's in the headline to make it look like Rubio is more of a danger on the road than he actually is is sensationalist nonsense.

I'm waiting for the New York Times' expose on Hillary Clinton's driving record.  Oh wait, unlike ordinary Americans, she hasn't driven in decades.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2015, 11:05:09 AM »

He won't drive anywhere if he's President anyway. Obama probably hasn't driven himself since 2007.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2015, 11:13:28 AM »

3h Politics1.com @Politics1com Miami Herald on NYT story on Marco Rubio: "Four tickets in 18 years make you, if not a model driver, at least a pretty typical one" in Fla.


Looks to me that this helps him more than less lol
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2015, 11:21:13 AM »

Oh wait, unlike ordinary Americans, she hasn't driven in decades.

Plenty of ordinary Americans don't drive. What a disgustingly racist/classist thing to say.
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2015, 11:39:52 AM »

Hillary Clinton is not an average American. Get this, for 8 years she lived in a mansion in the middle of Washington DC.  She even had the nerve to use taxpayer funded body-guards!  We expect our Presidents to rent a modest 2 bedroom in Reston, Virginia and drive a 1994 Mazda 626.
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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2015, 12:40:56 PM »

Oh wait, unlike ordinary Americans, she hasn't driven in decades.

Plenty of ordinary Americans don't drive. What a disgustingly racist/classist thing to say.

90% of Americans drive to work, and I suspect that at least some of those who walk or take mass transit to work still drive sometimes.  Drivers come from every racial and socioeconomic background.  So my statement is neither disgusting nor racist nor classist.  It is true.  Ordinary Americans drive.  Ordinary Americans get an occasional traffic ticket.

Not everyone in this country is from New York City, where fewer people drive.  And even fewer people are chauffered around town like Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2015, 02:36:16 PM »

This is a complete non-scandal. Rubio is helping his chances by rightfully mocking the whole thing.
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2015, 11:47:01 AM »

Don't compare this to the spurious attacks on Clinton from the NYT.  Having a charity foundation is a good thing, being a crazy driver is a bad thing.

Ultimately, do you care that someone is a lead-foot who almost had his driver's license revoked?  Not really.  It's kind of weird, but it's not a horrible, disqualifying thing.  But, like President Bush's DUI, it's relevant enough to write a story about.  If you run for President, all your dirty laundry gets aired. 

Are you sh**tting me? No, it's definitely not relevant enough to write about. The man has had 4 traffic stops in 18 years, if you're saying that's journalism worthy, you're lying to yourself. They're looking for any way they can to spit on anything right of Hillary, and we all know it.
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2015, 01:04:08 PM »

Don't compare this to the spurious attacks on Clinton from the NYT.  Having a charity foundation is a good thing, being a crazy driver is a bad thing.

Ultimately, do you care that someone is a lead-foot who almost had his driver's license revoked?  Not really.  It's kind of weird, but it's not a horrible, disqualifying thing.  But, like President Bush's DUI, it's relevant enough to write a story about.  If you run for President, all your dirty laundry gets aired. 

Are you sh**tting me? No, it's definitely not relevant enough to write about. The man has had 4 traffic stops in 18 years, if you're saying that's journalism worthy, you're lying to yourself. They're looking for any way they can to spit on anything right of Hillary, and we all know it.

Every politician running for President gets their dirty laundry aired.  That's a fact.  The question is whether this matters.  And, I said, no, it doesn't matter.
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