Hillary Clinton Will Follow Obama's Path to Presidency -Not Her Husband's

[Frodo]

In other words, she has decided that 2012 is far more relevant to her than 1992:

Hillary Clinton Traces Friendly Path, Troubling Party

By JONATHAN MARTIN and MAGGIE HABERMAN
JUNE 6, 2015

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[Blair]

It's pretty much win Florida, Ohio and Virginia and the Presidency if your a democrat. She's trying to uphold the Obama coalition, and making up for loses in turnout by getting older whiter voters who may have shied away from Obama

[Bull Moose Base]

It's pretty much win Florida, Ohio and or Virginia and the Presidency if your a democrat.

That works too.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's pretty much win Florida, Ohio and or Virginia and the Presidency if your a democrat.

That works too.

Or win CO&NV; Pa and NM for a narrow victory of 272 bare majority.

[Landslide Lyndon]

[Suburbia]

She should play for MO and GA too. Make this country competitive again for God's sake.

[ElectionsGuy]

But she'll win Kentucky!

[aktheden]

But she'll win Kentucky!

lol..no

[Likely Voter]

The only interesting thing about that article was that Team Hillary are still thinking about targeting AZ. The rest is sour grapes for the old Dem states of MO, AR, TN, KY and WY wishing they were still part of the action. If Hillary wanted those states she would have to run as a centrist Dem and not stake out the positions she has on immigration, gay marriage, etc.  And in so doing she would actually open herself up to a serious challenge from the left, maybe even actually getting Warren into the race.

The irony is of course that even though the NYT describes Obama's path as "narrow", Obama targeted a much larger range than Romney. And it is likely Hillary will target a much larger range than the GOP candidate. She will certainly be targeting more than Kerry did. The last Dem to go for all those old south and border states was Gore, and we saw what that got him.

[henster]

She will not win AZ especially given her comments on immigration, I don't think Hillary can expand the map she is struggling in states like IA, CO, & PA she really can't afford to spending $$ in MO, AZ, KY, WV etc. if she's struggling in states with a D+ PVI.

[Ebsy]

She will not win AZ especially given her comments on immigration, I don't think Hillary can expand the map she is struggling in states like IA, CO, & PA she really can't afford to spending $$ in MO, AZ, KY, WV etc. if she's struggling in states with a D+ PVI.

She's going to have more than enough money to spend wherever she wants.

[publicunofficial]

She will not win AZ especially given her comments on immigration, I don't think Hillary can expand the map she is struggling in states like IA, CO, & PA she really can't afford to spending $$ in MO, AZ, KY, WV etc. if she's struggling in states with a D+ PVI.

Money has ceased to be an issue in Presidential politics outside of the primaries. Rest assured that both candidates will have fleets of corporations to give them as much money as they need in whatever state they want.

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

Landslide Lyndon's quote from James Carville summed up the new reality.  There are very, very few "swing voters".  There are very few voters who vote one party on a local level and another party nationally.  All politics is National now, and all Presidential candidates have coattails. 

In reality, any Democrat elected President will be pressured to govern as a liberal; it will be liberal votes that would elect that Democrat.  Conversely, any Republican elected will have to govern as a conservative because even if it's a soft conservative like a Mitt Romney, it will be the GOP base that provides the needed votes for his/her nomination and conservative voters that will elect the Republican.  I think people get that, and it's why they're not fooled about "New Democrats" anymore.  Times have changed.

[Mercenary]

I think that is unfortunate though. It would be nice to actually have representatives that represented an area rather than just the 50~60% of the vote that they received.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The fact that both parties have abandoned the fifty-state strategy in favor of mobilizing their core supporters creates an even greater class of disenfranchised voters. The two-party system is showing cracks.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Time to cut off your commentary about MO being anything less than Likely R, IceSpear. Even Hillary realizes that its consistent 20 year republican trend takes it out of play for her barring a massive wave that includes her winning GA, NC, NE-02, and probably AZ.

And yeah, Hillary has no chance in KY, WV, TN, AR, TX etc.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

This is nothing revolutionary, this is reality. Clinton as a moderate Southern Democrat could pick up Southern states, the increasingly Democratic NE and West Coast, the Rust Belt and with the weird voting that year, places like Montana.

Kind of cute that Snowstalker talks about the broken two-party system, when if the Democrats want to play seriously in Appalachia again, they'll have to shift hard to the centre, and try to appeal to an electorate that has actually gotten appreciably more conservative over the last 20 years, not just the parties shifting away from the centre.

Despite valiant cries from the leftists here, Hillary is very much a mainstream progressive, which means her base is nowhere near as broad as her Husbands, but she does have the capacity to retain the 2012 Obama map and play with the margins and make a serious play in some states that Obama just couldn't work in or had drifted away. 

[Frodo]

Whatever you may say about her, Hillary Clinton is not (and never will be) a 'southern Democrat'.  Don't confuse her with her husband who actually has southern roots -and an accent to match.   

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Whatever you may say about her, Hillary Clinton is not (and never will be) a 'southern Democrat'.  Don't confuse her with her husband who actually has southern roots -and an accent to match.   

Um... if that's in reference to me, I was talking about her husband.