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« on: June 08, 2015, 11:21:27 PM »

Why not? Assume a good Republican year as a whole (Johnson down, Kirk survives by the skin of his teeth), and a continuation of the trends polls are showing at the moment.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 11:35:08 PM »

Kasich wins!

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 11:57:55 PM »



Being charitable with CO and FL here.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 12:17:43 AM »



Being charitable with CO and FL here.

Yes the popular Ohio governor won't win Ohio
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 12:20:56 AM »

Kasich could win OH, IA, CO, FL and VA and with this even the Presidency too.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 01:05:56 AM »



Being charitable with CO and FL here.

Yes the popular Ohio governor won't win Ohio

I didn't say he'd be crushed. A popular pol losing his home state isn't exactly unheard of. Anyway, give Kasich OH and he still comes up short. He would need VA, PA or a combination of IA, NH, and NV. From my point of view, NH seems the only plausible state of the five to flip for him.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 02:09:02 PM »



Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine: 329 EV. (51.5%)
John Kasich/Carly Fiorina: 209 EV. (46.7%)
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 05:29:43 PM »

Who are the running-mates? Is this a Clinton/Heinrich vs. Kasich/Martinez matchup? 
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 05:47:28 PM »



Kasich 321
Clinton 217
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2015, 08:10:17 PM »

Accidentally voted Clinton... While certainly not implausible, I think Kasich could do better than expected. Remember, the media will be dead set against Clinton.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2015, 08:41:38 PM »

Based on the description in the OP, Kasich wins, but in general I'd say it's a tossup, maybe with Clinton having a slight advantage.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2015, 08:59:21 PM »

This would be a tight election. Kasich could put a huge dent in Hillary's performance compared to 2012, but whether it would be enough to actually win is a toss-up in my mind.


Though I'd vote Kasich, I guess I'll vote Hillary for the poll, since she'd have an easier time winning the primaries and the GOP hasn't quite shed its "batsh_t crazy" image yet.

I think Kasich is the most electable Republican.  I just think that the GOP hasn't come to see this yet.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2015, 09:04:59 PM »

Kasich chooses Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval as his running mate, while Clinton takes a note from her husband's playbook and, just as Bill chose another young Southerner as his running mate, Hillary chooses another female Northeasterner, namely former Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley. The American people see through the charade and, in their righteous might, rise up against the neoliberal warmongering hag, delivering Governor Kasich the greatest popular and electoral landslide in American history.



Governor John Kasich (R-OH) / Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV): 64%; 527 Electoral Votes
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Former Attorney General Martha Coakley (D-MA): 34%; 11 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2015, 08:02:22 PM »

Randslide, as always...



Senator Rand Paul (I-KY)/Senator Rand Paul (I-KY)
Fmr. Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)
Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2015, 09:29:49 PM »

Why is everyone hung up on Kasich? He's a milquetoast conservative and average at best communicator. I'm not seeing what he brings to the table that gives him a much better chance than the rest of the Republicans running.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2015, 11:08:00 PM »

Why is everyone hung up on Kasich? He's a milquetoast conservative and average at best communicator. I'm not seeing what he brings to the table that gives him a much better chance than the rest of the Republicans running.

He's a popular swing state governor, palatable to the establishment, has strong fiscal conservative bona fides from his time in Congress, and he isn't a walking gaffe machine. This doesn't position him as the frontrunner but it does give him an opening to become the compromise candidate if Bush, Rubio, and Walker fizzle out.
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2015, 09:22:14 AM »

Why is everyone hung up on Kasich? He's a milquetoast conservative and average at best communicator. I'm not seeing what he brings to the table that gives him a much better chance than the rest of the Republicans running.

He's a popular swing state governor, palatable to the establishment, has strong fiscal conservative bona fides from his time in Congress, and he isn't a walking gaffe machine. This doesn't position him as the frontrunner but it does give him an opening to become the compromise candidate if Bush, Rubio, and Walker fizzle out.

Pretty much this.  To say that a successful governor who just got elected in a landslide in a swing state and who has made some moderate stances going against party doctrine hasn't separated himself from the likes of Ted Cruz or Rick Perry is silly, IMO.
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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2015, 09:39:03 AM »

If it's a good Republican year, Kasich would win.

If it's a cycle that goes against Republicans, Clinton would win.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2015, 10:55:39 AM »

Why is everyone hung up on Kasich? He's a milquetoast conservative and average at best communicator. I'm not seeing what he brings to the table that gives him a much better chance than the rest of the Republicans running.

He's a popular swing state governor, palatable to the establishment, has strong fiscal conservative bona fides from his time in Congress, and he isn't a walking gaffe machine.

all of those things are good on paper but don't really matter to actual voters. Voters want someone with a good narrative, Kasich doesn't have one.
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2015, 11:08:31 AM »



Clinton wins 276-262.
Iowa is very close, but not decisive (with Iowa to Kasich, it would be Clinton 270-268).
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2015, 12:10:55 PM »

Kasich is my favorite 2016 candidate, but you guys are overestimating him.

Kasich is like the epitome of a "boring white guy." I don't have a problem with that, but a lot of people do. Kasich is so boring and uninspiring, and in this day and age you need someone who is more charismatic, enthusatic, and not boring.
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2015, 12:20:09 PM »

Kasich is my favorite 2016 candidate, but you guys are overestimating him.

Kasich is like the epitome of a "boring white guy." I don't have a problem with that, but a lot of people do. Kasich is so boring and uninspiring, and in this day and age you need someone who is more charismatic, enthusatic, and not boring.

I just picked out this video of Kasich at random, but I am interested if you find his presentation "boring and uninspiring."
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