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« on: June 09, 2015, 08:04:14 PM »

Could Lincoln Chafee be setting himself up to run as a third party candidate? Also if he did who would his running mate be and what effect would he have on the general?
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2015, 08:38:40 PM »

Chafee/Huntsman 2016

Honorary Campaign Co-Chairs:
Michael Bloomberg
Angus King
Colin Powell
Christine Todd Whitman
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 08:45:00 PM »

Potentially, but I don't see him having enough of an impact to swing the election either way, maybe gets 0.5%-1% tops in RI.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 08:56:50 PM »

What's the demand for such a candidacy?  What credibility would it have?  Chaffee was a Republican, than an Independent, then a Democrat, and then an Independent again?  What special attributes does he have that would make his Presidential candidacy credible even as a protest candidacy?  What would such a candidacy be other than an ego trip?

People see through these things.  People know when a guy has no substance, but is on an ego trip.  That's what Chaffee's candidacy is about.  If he had been serious, he'd have mended fences in Rhode Island and attempted to be reelected as a Democrat.  That would have taken the kind of gritty work of both governing and politicking that is much different from campaigning.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 09:58:03 PM »

I could definitely see it happening. He might beat Gary Johnson's 2012 performance, but that would put him at 1% nationwide (maybe 2-3% in RI).
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 10:11:58 PM »

I could definitely see it happening. He might beat Gary Johnson's 2012 performance, but that would put him at 1% nationwide (maybe 2-3% in RI).
No, he wouldn't beat Johnson's record. That just won't happen.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 11:11:57 PM »

I don't believe he has the money for it. Nor does he seem like a match for parties that can get ballot access.

Will Hillary moving left to excite activists and a nontrivial chance of Republicans nominating someone divisive (Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul), there might be a better opening for a centrist independent candidate than we've seen in years. It won't mean he has a shot at winning.

The preferred running mate would be a centrist with a solid resume, who doesn't mind buring bridges with their party. Either that, or a popular outsider.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2015, 08:12:58 AM »

Chafee/Huntsman 2016

Honorary Campaign Co-Chairs:
Michael Bloomberg
Angus King
Colin Powell
Christine Todd Whitman

Huntsman would have nothing to do with a loser like Chafee.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2015, 08:17:15 AM »

Chafee/Huntsman 2016

Honorary Campaign Co-Chairs:
Michael Bloomberg
Angus King
Colin Powell
Christine Todd Whitman

Huntsman would have nothing to do with a loser like Chafee.
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2015, 09:10:22 AM »

Chafee/Huntsman 2016

Honorary Campaign Co-Chairs:
Michael Bloomberg
Angus King
Colin Powell
Christine Todd Whitman

Huntsman would have nothing to do with a loser like Chafee.

Nor would dear Bloomie or anyone else on that list, for that matter.
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2015, 02:28:01 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2015, 02:32:13 PM by Rauren Lyan »

Chafee/Huntsman 2016

Honorary Campaign Co-Chairs:
Michael Bloomberg
Angus King
Colin Powell
Christine Todd Whitman

Huntsman would have nothing to do with a loser like Chafee.

Nor would dear Bloomie or anyone else on that list, for that matter.

Lets take a look at who might actually be interested then...

Jesse Ventura - Similar anti-interventionist views, also supports progressive causes but with a fiscal conservative streak. Also Ventura is crazy enough to sign on, ideology doesn't seem to matter much to him considering he has been checking names as diverse as Ross Perot, Dick Lamm, Gary Johnson, Cynthia McKinney, Roseanne Barr and Howard Stern as potential running mates in the past.

Buddy Roemer - Also a "loser" with relatively centrist goals and desire to be in the race, just add Roemer's pet issue of campaign finance reform and I bet he is in. Again, he endorses people all over the spectrum and doesn't seem to be tied to any one ideology.

Who else might he recruit? I can't think of many centrists... Manchin isn't a good fit... Perhaps America's only independent Governor Bill Walker of Alaska or a recent third party campaigner with some experience like Larry Pressler?
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2015, 02:41:53 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2015, 02:50:42 PM by Torie »

Actually, this article suggests the Bloomberg is at least not ruling out running for POTUS - as a Dem. That might squeeze Hillary some, as she loses votes on the right to him, while losing votes on the left to O'Malley and Sanders. Chafee's quixotic quest is not worth spending any time on really.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2015, 02:47:03 PM »

Actually, this article suggests the Bloomberg is at least not ruling out running for POTUS - as a Dem. That might squeeze Hillary some, as she loses vote on the right to him, while losing votes on the left to O'Malley and Sanders. Chafee's quixotic quest is not worth spending any time on really.

I think that a Bloomberg primary victory would get me to vote for Chafee as an independent.
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2015, 02:48:17 PM »

Any independent candidate would have to have a lot of money, but that's common knowledge, I hope.
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2015, 09:29:25 PM »

Chafee-Roemer: Disaffected Dixiecrats and Rockefeller Republicans unite!
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2015, 09:29:25 PM »

I really can't see Bloomberg appealing to the Democratic primary electorate and I don't think that he's seriously thinking of running. Everything from the NY Post should be taken with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2015, 12:46:20 AM »

Lincoln Chafee / Lowell Weicker. We have the anti Iraq war southern New England moderate Republican Senator turned Independent governor vote down pat.
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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2015, 12:55:07 AM »

Actually, this article suggests the Bloomberg is at least not ruling out running for POTUS - as a Dem. That might squeeze Hillary some, as she loses votes on the right to him, while losing votes on the left to O'Malley and Sanders. Chafee's quixotic quest is not worth spending any time on really.

Just LOL if another warmonger neoliberal decided to get in the race.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2015, 08:29:10 AM »

Actually, this article suggests the Bloomberg is at least not ruling out running for POTUS - as a Dem. That might squeeze Hillary some, as she loses votes on the right to him, while losing votes on the left to O'Malley and Sanders. Chafee's quixotic quest is not worth spending any time on really.

Just LOL if another warmonger neoliberal decided to get in the race.

Bloomberg is a warmonger?
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2015, 02:07:55 PM »

Actually, this article suggests the Bloomberg is at least not ruling out running for POTUS - as a Dem. That might squeeze Hillary some, as she loses votes on the right to him, while losing votes on the left to O'Malley and Sanders. Chafee's quixotic quest is not worth spending any time on really.

Just LOL if another warmonger neoliberal decided to get in the race.

Bloomberg is a warmonger?

Yes, and you should feel sorry for ignoring the plight of the citizens of Cokeville and Pepsiton.
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2015, 04:29:06 PM »

Bloomberg's previous statement on running for President does seem to only have addressed whether he'd run as an independent, and his rationale for not running is just that he couldn't win. Still probably won't happen, but not totally out of the picture.
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2015, 06:48:06 PM »

He wont run, he sees his candidacy as helpful to Dems, not as Nadar sees it. Exploit Dems weaknesses like he did to Gore and Kerry.

Trump, hopefully runs for president, and exploits weaknesses of GOP.
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2015, 07:09:39 PM »

This thread shouldn't exist.
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