Ohio: Mixed results for Hillary Clinton in match-ups against Republicans, PPP
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2015, 05:25:11 PM »

Clinton can certainly win CO, NV, NM and Pa; without Ohio.

Clinton will have to work for it.
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2015, 05:25:35 PM »

You are all putting way too much stock in specific polls at this point.  None of these Republicans are really known quantities, so you look at these numbers as anything more than a guidepost.  Ohio is basically where it was in 2012, it's an extremely competitive state.

That's the point.  Up until this poll, Hillary appeared to have a commanding lead in Ohio among non-joke pollsters.  Now it's a tossup.
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2015, 05:26:34 PM »

Like clockwork, the unskewing morons come out of the woodwork when they don't like the poll result.

Like clock work people on this forum continue to be complete jerks to each other. No wonder Alt. History warns people of how toxic and horrible this place is.
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2015, 05:58:42 PM »

This poll polled 411 Republicans and 306 Democrats. Ohio was +7 D in the last presidential election.

That's the number of respondents they're using for their primary subsamples.  But the demographic weighting for the general election sample gives them:

Dems 40%
GOP 37%
Indies 23%
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2015, 05:59:13 PM »

Clinton can win Virginia and Florida (with Walker) without Ohio. I don't see Ohio as the tipping point next year, the Dems have better chances with demographics in VA FL CO.

Look at the number of "very liberal" voters who don't like clinton. It's not huge but it is a noticeable group that is hurting her favorables. Not like they'll vote GOP in the fall.
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« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2015, 06:11:47 PM »

This poll polled 411 Republicans and 306 Democrats. Ohio was +7 D in the last presidential election.

Roll Eyes This is a sample that voted for Obama by 7 points (49%-42%).
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« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2015, 07:37:46 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2015, 07:39:40 PM by Likely Voter »

Very good numbers for Kasich obviously, will only help with his fundraising as he sets up to launch. This is more evidence that he is best placed to deliver an Obama state, I cant recall any polls for Walker, Rubio, or Bush that showed them doing this well in their states.

It will be very ironic if Kasich doesn't make the cut for the first debate, which happens to take place in Ohio.
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« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2015, 07:41:17 PM »

They polled Cruz and you didn't tell me! Clearly you are behaving the way Fox is behaving with Rand Paul!

Clinton 44%
Cruz 43%

Run Hillary, run!
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2015, 01:12:31 AM »

Obviously terrible results but you've got to understand Republicans are overexposed atm while Hillary is basically avoiding the media.
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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2015, 01:18:52 AM »

Probably most of the undecideds break toward the Republicans once they unify around a candidate rather than having a 5 way tie for 10%. Those aren't good numbers for Clinton. The real hope is that the inevitable meme wears out before she secures the nomination.
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2015, 01:21:04 AM »

Probably most of the undecideds break toward the Republicans once they unify around a candidate rather than having a 5 way tie for 10%.

This will be a higher turnout election, so it's hard to see that not being offset.
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2015, 08:59:30 AM »

Probably most of the undecideds break toward the Republicans once they unify around a candidate rather than having a 5 way tie for 10%. Those aren't good numbers for Clinton. The real hope is that the inevitable meme wears out before she secures the nomination.

The inevitable meme doesn't actually have an effect on polls like this because Atlas represents like 1/1000000th of the American voter base.
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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2015, 10:44:57 AM »

Definitely a bad poll for Clinton, but this is far from spelling doom for her.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2015, 12:06:25 PM »

Definitely a bad poll for Clinton, but this is far from spelling doom for her.

She's been ahead a long time in Ohio. Ted Strickland is tied with Portman. Kaine is most likely the VP.

She will run slightly ahead all the GOP in Ohio.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2015, 12:15:46 PM »

She's been ahead a long time in Ohio. Ted Strickland is tied with Portman. Kaine is most likely the VP.

She needs to pick a progressive VP. Not Tim Kaine.
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2015, 01:04:30 PM »

She's been ahead a long time in Ohio. Ted Strickland is tied with Portman. Kaine is most likely the VP.

She needs to pick a progressive VP. Not Tim Kaine.

Yes please pick a progressive vp
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2015, 01:18:55 PM »

She's been ahead a long time in Ohio. Ted Strickland is tied with Portman. Kaine is most likely the VP.

She needs to pick a progressive VP. Not Tim Kaine.

Kaine is fairly liberal than Clinton. He's the right choice for this time.
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2015, 01:26:59 PM »

Kaine is fairly liberal than Clinton. He's the right choice for this time.

Sherrod Brown is probably a much better choice.
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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2015, 01:51:18 PM »

I remember a few weeks ago a NH poll showing a close race with Hillary actually losing to a couple of Republicans. And everyone was saying that meant DOOOOOOOM for her.
And then a few days later another poll came where she was beating everyone in North Carolina, and what do you know? She was again cruising to an easy election.

Why don't you just chill a bit and wait?
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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2015, 02:05:56 PM »

Kaine is fairly liberal than Clinton. He's the right choice for this time.

Sherrod Brown is probably a much better choice.
Either Brown or Kaine would be top notch choices.
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« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2015, 03:00:52 PM »

Kaine is fairly liberal than Clinton. He's the right choice for this time.

Sherrod Brown is probably a much better choice.
Either Brown or Kaine would be top notch choices.
You are being idiotic. Democrats need Brown's Senate seat if they are to have any hope of regaining the majority in that body.
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« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2015, 05:28:57 PM »

She's been ahead a long time in Ohio. Ted Strickland is tied with Portman. Kaine is most likely the VP.

She needs to pick a progressive VP. Not Tim Kaine.

Kaine is fairly liberal than Clinton. He's the right choice for this time.

Kaine's not a liberal, and the Democrats lost 63 House seats in the 1 election he was DNC chair for.
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« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2015, 05:38:19 PM »

The Dems need Kaine in order to have any chance of getting Strickland and Clinton elected.

Hope he is selected. Dems arent gonna necessarily win majority of house, but make enroads in it. So 2010 wont matter as much. Endorse Kaine.
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« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2015, 06:10:30 PM »

What about Mark Udall?
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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2015, 06:24:55 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2015, 06:28:09 PM by OC »

No, Bill Clinton after the election was critical of how he ran his campaign.

It may be Tom Perez, he wont cause stir, due to his newness, like Castro does.

But, finalist as inside blogs put it along with Tom Perez, Julian Castro and Mark Warner will be the Veep pick.
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