How Jeb's campaign went off course before it began
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« on: June 10, 2015, 05:23:44 PM »

WaPo longread on Bushworld.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2015, 08:06:20 PM »

He peaked too early. And he got his small bump when he entered the race. Dems are slightly favored in 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2015, 08:20:05 PM »

He peaked too early. And he got his small bump when he entered the race. Dems are slightly favored in 2016.

Bush hasn't formally entered the race yet.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2015, 08:46:52 PM »

I was referring to the small bump in the polls in early April, when Hilary was put on defense about disclosure of emails.

You're right he hasnt entered yet, but he's been going on talk shows since April.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2015, 09:57:06 PM »

He peaked too early. And he got his small bump when he entered the race. Dems are slightly favored in 2016.

Bush hasn't formally entered the race yet.

He certainly peaked later than Chris Christie.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2015, 10:09:57 PM »

Bush has surged ahead in New Hampshire, is doing fine in his home state of Florida, and he is by far winning in terms of fundraising - his Iraq gaffe was a big deal because he's generally great with the media.

His campaign is doing fine, he will most likely be the nominee.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2015, 08:30:57 AM »

He's gone off course because he hasn't raised $100 million by June of the year before the election? Failure!
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2015, 10:44:57 AM »

He's gone off course because he hasn't raised $100 million by June of the year before the election? Failure!

Well if someone's goal is to completely dominate the field with money and they aren't going to be able to do that, isn't that a failure? It doesn't seem like anyone is intimidated by Jeb Bush's supposed shadow machine.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2015, 12:09:13 PM »

His stumbles will come back in a general election campaign.

So far, he is following the paths of McCain and Romney, not Dubya. In terms of gaffee prone, Terry Schaivo.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2015, 12:53:25 PM »

Bush has surged ahead in New Hampshire, is doing fine in his home state of Florida, and he is by far winning in terms of fundraising - his Iraq gaffe was a big deal because he's generally great with the media.

His campaign is doing fine, he will most likely be the nominee.

At once we see selective spin but also general accuracy.  Bush is fine and the official announcement will help right the ship, which isn't teetering that much in the first place.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2015, 02:01:07 PM »

Bush has surged ahead in New Hampshire, is doing fine in his home state of Florida, and he is by far winning in terms of fundraising - his Iraq gaffe was a big deal because he's generally great with the media.

His campaign is doing fine, he will most likely be the nominee.

At once we see selective spin but also general accuracy.  Bush is fine and the official announcement will help right the ship, which isn't teetering that much in the first place.

Right. Bush's surge in NH is only measured by a dubious Gravis poll, the latest Florida poll has Rubio closing the gap with Bush, his fundraising is short of expectations and his polling is much weaker than Romney's was 4 years ago. But he still is a better bet than Walker or Rubio to perform well on a debate stage, will have money with which to massively attack them and has as good a chance in New Hampshire as anyone else. He's neither a lock nor imploding at this point.

But also, this article makes is seem pretty unambiguous that Bush has broken the law. What if Christie ends up the only major candidate not indicted?
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2015, 04:06:12 PM »

He's literally another McCain and Romney, literally nothing new. This will be a laughable 2016 if people are stupid enough to drop him in as the nominee again..

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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2015, 04:23:05 PM »

He's literally another McCain and Romney, literally nothing new. This will be a laughable 2016 if people are stupid enough to drop him in as the nominee again..

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Who of the 2008 and 2012 contenders do you think would have done better?  I think the runners up--Huckabee and Santorum--would have done worse.  The alcoPaulics probably think Ron Paul could have rallied moderates and liberals, but that seems unlikely bordering on impossible.  So who?
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2015, 04:25:10 PM »

I didn't mention those elections. I mentioned he is a candidate not suitable to win, a poor poor choice, like Mitt & McCain.
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