Why is Lyndon Johnson considered a 'war monger', but Harry Truman is not?
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« on: June 12, 2015, 11:23:34 AM »
Serious question.

Both basically got the US involved in stale-mates in Asian countries to prevent the spread of Communism. One is glorified as a national hero even now, the other is despised as a war-monger, despite his stunning domestic achievements.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2015, 11:26:34 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2015, 11:54:27 AM »
Both of them are in some circles.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2015, 12:07:29 PM »
Can we ban this moron yet?
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2015, 12:18:24 PM »
Biggest evidence of a trolling sock yet.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2015, 01:42:06 PM »
Simple: Truman never pulled down his pants and waved his Nixon at the press when answering why he U.S. is getting involved. Johnson did.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2015, 02:10:12 PM »
The Korean War is normally viewed as more justified and less nasty than vietnam.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2015, 02:26:19 PM »
so glad i have you blocked, dazey. not even reading the OP as the title has damaged me enough as it is.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2015, 04:03:50 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2015, 07:48:29 PM »
You're dumb.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2015, 09:00:34 PM »
Mainly because Truman and Eisenhower had a much better grasp of the kind of war we were fighting. There can't be total victory in a proxy war with another superpower. The best possible end-game in Vietnam was the same thing - two countries, firmly divided, each backed by one superpower.
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2015, 09:09:04 PM »
At least LBJ didn't drop two atomic bombs like a complete dummkopf...
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2015, 10:13:57 AM »
Quote from: Senator Türkisblau on June 12, 2015, 09:09:04 PM
At least LBJ didn't drop two atomic bombs like a complete dummkopf...

Because I'm sure a land invasion of Japan would have gone so well...
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2015, 10:44:55 PM »
Quote from: Goldwater on June 13, 2015, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: Senator Türkisblau on June 12, 2015, 09:09:04 PM
At least LBJ didn't drop two atomic bombs like a complete dummkopf...

Because I'm sure a land invasion of Japan would have gone so well...

Yeah.  The counterfactuals did not look good for Hiroshima/Nagasaki.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2015, 02:38:04 AM »
Quote from: Rubio Republican on June 12, 2015, 09:00:34 PM
Mainly because Truman and Eisenhower had a much better grasp of the kind of war we were fighting. There can't be total victory in a proxy war with another superpower. The best possible end-game in Vietnam was the same thing - two countries, firmly divided, each backed by one superpower.

That is why when Truman left office, the war was locked in a stalemate and Truman left office with approval ratings on par with Nixon's during the height of Watergate?
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2015, 10:01:31 AM »
The Gulf of Tonkin incident was fabricated, and used as a pretext for intervention in Nam by LBJ.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2015, 06:15:30 PM »
There was no hippie counterculture during Truman's presidency.
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