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« Reply #100 on: June 16, 2015, 09:29:47 PM »

So if I say I'm a dinosaur, then everyone else should say I'm a dinosaur? What kinda morons are you guys?

The intersectionalist left/SJWs/cultural Marxists/whatever you want to call them do not support transracialism. There was some confusion the first couple of days but now they are all uniformly against it. If you defend it, you will be shouted down as transphobic and racist.

You can still be against the concept, but you're wrong to pretend its something that the left is pushing.
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« Reply #101 on: June 16, 2015, 09:31:26 PM »

wtf does "transracial" even mean??

wft does transgender even mean??

Is it offensive to you if I ask that question? If so, why is your question NOT offensive?
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« Reply #102 on: June 16, 2015, 11:02:55 PM »

Rachel Dolezal is black by choice. She is now so black that if she were to have a child by a white man the child, no matter what the DNA and appearance say, would have a black mother.   

Incorrect. She is Caucasian.

Genetically only. She is about as complete a "race traitor" (this is not derogatory, since there is no moral defense of white privilege) as anyone could be. Unfortunately she is also a liar, even if the lies are about comparatively-benign stuff.

It's hypothetical -- the child would be white because of the DNA of both biological parents, but Rachel Dolezal would still be black unless she undid her black hair and off-white skin color -- and I cannot say whether she could do this.

Culture? She is now probably 'blacker' than Condaleezza Rice.  Heck, I would not be surprised to find that President Obama more appreciates Czech classical music (one of the world's greatest traditions from a small country) than does Rachel Dolezal.  (Speculation on my part -- President Obama has been very secretive about his cultural preferences, and he may have good reason for such).
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« Reply #103 on: June 17, 2015, 01:04:59 AM »

The intersectionalist left/SJWs/cultural Marxists/whatever you want to call them do not support transracialism. There was some confusion the first couple of days but now they are all uniformly against it. If you defend it, you will be shouted down as transphobic and racist.

You can still be against the concept, but you're wrong to pretend its something that the left is pushing.

Yeah but that's what SJW's say about anyone who disagrees with them on anything so does it really have any meaning anymore?
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« Reply #104 on: June 17, 2015, 01:20:43 AM »

Who cares? Why is this national news? Why have you all been discussing this for 5 pages? Why am I writing this post?
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« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2015, 12:49:12 PM »
« Edited: June 17, 2015, 02:42:50 PM by Clarko95 »

wtf does "transracial" even mean??

wft does transgender even mean??

Is it offensive to you if I ask that question? If so, why is your question NOT offensive?

Because being transgender is not nearly the same thing as what Rachel Dolezal did. Minorities are not something white people can wear as costumes when they want us for their own selfish gain or because they’re bored being white. Comparing what Dolezal did to transgenderism is insulting to both people who face discrimination because they are transgender or because of their race.

Being transgender is not something voluntary. Putting on blackface and lying about yourself for your own gain is. Gender and sex are complicated things that we don’t fully understand 100%, but both have a basis in biology. When I was born, I was born with the physical sex of a male, and my biology resulted in me identifying with the gender of a male by influencing my way of thinking, my tastes, and how I wanted to express myself (I am cisgender).
When a transgender person is born, they are born with the physical sex of one gender, but their biology affects their way of thinking, their tastes, and how they want to express themselves as the other gender/sex. Though gender norms are heavily influenced by society around us, no one “chooses” to be transgender in the same way that no one “chooses” to be LGBT.

Race, on the other hand, is not anything like sex and gender. When my mom was born, she was not born “inherently” Asian. When my dad was born, he was not born “inherently” white. When I was born, I was not born “inherently” mixed-race. Race is merely a superficial set of external characteristics like skin color, facial features, hair texture and color, etc. that has no major bearing on our way of thinking, our tastes, or how we want to express ourselves.

Despite being superficial when taken by itself, race is still a major force in the world because it is ingrained in culture and has serious implications for minorities (especially black people) in society. Thought I am racially half-white and culturally identify as white, and all of my friends and family recognize this, when I go out into public and deal with people at work or on the street who do not know me personally and my background, my features often lead to people thinking that I am Hispanic, Arab, Turkish, or southern European (a lot of Hispanic people here in the USA think I’m actually Spanish as in “from Spain”). While I am fortunate to never have experienced outright discrimination, but rather mostly awkward mistakes and cultural insensitivity at worst, many people have it far worse. This is something I realized about myself and the world only 3 years ago or so, when I finally gained the independence to leave home by myself, get a job, and interact with the public.

“Transracial” as recently as a month ago simply referred to families where the parents had adopted children of a different race and had to explain to them, that while race did not exist in their home, it had serious implications for them outside in the world (the most common example is white parents have “The Talk” with their black children about police).

It is possible and acceptable for a white person to be culturally black. Like, let’s say they were adopted by black parents, lived in a black neighborhood, socialized with black people, and were immersed in black culture. The reverse is also true. If Dolezal felt an affinity to black culture, that’s totally cool. She could’ve been a white woman who allied herself with black people and other minorities in the struggle for equality. Being a white ally is invaluable because you can form a bridge to other whites who don’t understand the struggle by challenging them. The problem is that being a white ally means you have to take the time and effort to build a reputation and track record with civil rights workers, and she probably found out that these workers didn’t immediately trust her.

So what did she choose to do? She chose to lie about her life and become black. She chose to take the place of a deserving black person who has had to live with the injustice and discrimination that black people face in America (especially black women) and replace that person with her lies, and speaking in place of them (i.e. silencing them) instead of speaking with them. She is tarnishing the hard work that white people have done over the past 200+ years when they work with civil rights groups.

If she did fabricate those death threats and hate mail that are being investigated right now, then she is stealing limited resources, time, and efforts from real hate crimes that are being committed and are often underreported.

If her claim that she is black got her a job at the university teaching Black studies, then she stole that job from a deserving black person who actually has personal experience all their lives with discrimination. It is further a problem since black people already face enormous challenges advancing in the workplace and academia. Additionally, students who took her classes say she mistreated them.

Though I’ve only seen this claimed in one place, if she did receive a full-ride scholarship to Howard University, then it is possible she may have denied that scholarship to a deserving black student.

So when you claim this is all “harmless”, you’re wrong. It is.

So how is this different from minorities who pass as white? Well, in many cases, that’s actually a matter of survival. I myself can easily pass as white, intentionally or unintentionally (especially during December – April, when I lose the coloring in my arms, neck, and face, and look like a white guy with dark hair and eyes). I don’t necessarily endorse it, so I don’t intentionally do it. However, white people in the United States do not face the same challenges that minorities (again, especially black people) face to advance in society and the workplace. If a minority passes off for white, they still have had to live with injustice and discrimination in their “pre-white life”. When she went black, she never had previously experienced the struggle that black people and other minorities face, and yet she claimed she did. As a white woman, she could’ve taken a huge number of jobs and been successful. The problem is that she used her blackface to possibly take resources from deserving black people and then mistreated people using her position.

Now if she had claimed to be black, darkened her hair and skin, lied about her past, but did not really benefit from any of this by getting a job and a scholarship and faking hate crimes, I don’t think I’d really have a problem with it. If it was revealed and went public, you’d probably see a lot less anger about this. It would be weird as hell, but since in this case there wouldn’t have been much harm, no one would really care.

The problem though, is that she used it to get ahead, lie her way into a position of trust, and may have taken resources and a voice from deserving minorities. Again: she wore being a minority like a costume for her own benefit, and used her position to insult and mistreat others.

If you defend her actions and equivocate transgenderism and this new bulls*** definition of “transracial”, then you are insulting people who face gender and racial discrimination, stealing an identifier from people who come from transracial adoptive families, and are helping perpetuate white privilege.


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« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2015, 01:21:24 PM »

You could make the same claim in regard to to transgendered people that being a woman is not something a man can do because they're bored.

At the end of it, I just see a lot of trans and pro-trans people saying things like "she's mentally ill" "you can't change genetics" "she's just pretending" and it's like what the hell, can these people hear themselves? Can they not see the irony?

To your credit, you don't seem to be making the argument most SJWs are making that race is genetic. 
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« Reply #107 on: June 17, 2015, 01:52:02 PM »

Truthfully?

I am not in a position to point at and categorise this woman. I would be interesting to understand the psychology behind people who feel this way, or people who bleach their skin, Japanese people who have their eyelids altered or even this Brazilian man who has altered himself to be Korean:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2645950/I-fun-bein-Korean-Blonde-Brazilian-man-undergoes-extraordinary-surgery-achieve-convincing-Oriental-look.html

There is legitimate interest here, without rushing to judge these things ethically. People have identity issues for a reason. While I find this 'strange', I'm in no place to determine it's legitimacy or otherwise.
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« Reply #108 on: June 17, 2015, 03:10:42 PM »

You realize this woman is a fuc*ing nutjob, right? She's an embarrassment on society. So we don't defend her, we don't condone her, and we shouldn't acknowledge her.

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« Reply #109 on: June 17, 2015, 03:28:27 PM »

Skin color and culture are two different things. I haven't seen any scientific evidence that one can be born genetically predisposed to identify with one culture more than another. Culture is something that is learned after birth, and is shaped by upbringing, as well as regional issues. Not every person born with black skin is going to identify with black culture, it all depends on how they were raised. The culture you identify with has nothing to do with genetics, it's all about upbringing. At some point, Rachel Dolezal decided that she wanted to identify with black culture and chose to do so.
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« Reply #110 on: June 17, 2015, 04:17:05 PM »

You realize this woman is a fuc*ing nutjob, right? She's an embarrassment on society. So we don't defend her, we don't condone her, and we shouldn't acknowledge her.


Projection is a helluva defense mechanism.
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« Reply #111 on: June 17, 2015, 04:57:58 PM »

The thing is, if a white person really passes off as black and people really think they are black and treat them as black, then for all intents and purposes they've lost their white privilege. Since racism is essentially a matter of how you are treated based on the color of your skin, a "white" person that society sees as black is effectively black.

The problem with people of color who try to pass off as white is that it's an endorsement of white privilege. Not all of us have the luxury of passing off as white. It's typically not a matter of literal survival but getting certain social privileges. Rather than representing themselves to people as a person of color and being a part of the visibility of people of color, or confronting and fighting against racism, these people are content for people to think of them as white and benefit from the very system that oppresses them in other ways, and oppresses other people of color.
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« Reply #112 on: June 17, 2015, 05:01:16 PM »

Lol why are we so obsessed with this joke story? I mean it's funny, but surely you guys have something more, erm, newsworthy to discuss?
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« Reply #113 on: June 17, 2015, 07:30:20 PM »

May I remind people here of the last person to achieve international notice for trying to change their race?

Michael Jackson didn't receive much apologia, even less was he considered 'transracial'.
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« Reply #114 on: June 17, 2015, 09:16:30 PM »

It's just extraordinarily hilarious seeing the rhetorical knots liberals are tying themselves into over this.
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« Reply #115 on: June 17, 2015, 09:37:19 PM »

It's just extraordinarily hilarious seeing the rhetorical knots liberals are tying themselves into over this.
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« Reply #116 on: June 18, 2015, 08:34:27 AM »

I may risk going into psychobabble here, but there could be more than 'race' and 'white guilt' here. Rachel Dolezal is a bright daughter of Christian fundamentalist parents  who put her in a gilded cage. Czech ancestry? This is not likely a home in which the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu (they are delightful composers!) are a disproportionate part of the music on the stereo. This is the homogenized, shuttered world of fundamentalist preaching and scolding. Most likely it is one of sexual repression in which the sole purpose of sex is to have Christian fundamentalist children in huge numbers. An intelligent girl is likely to reject this view of life and seek something very different.

Race may not be an overt problem for religious fundamentalists. Christian Protestant Fundamentalism accept non-whites should they accept the package of Biblical literalism, cultural blandness, and sexual repression. Getting the opportunity to get as far away from that environment as possible, she went to a historically-black university with intellectual rigor. Not only did she discover African-American culture; she also discovered secularism which permits a greater variety of possible plans in life than marrying early to have lots of children to be harnessed to a stilted view of the world.

Just imagine that she had attended Brandeis University, a well-regarded Jewish university. She would have discovered a world view very different from that of her parents. She might have still gotten a degree in Fine Arts... and ended up marrying some wonderful Jewish husband who introduces her to, among other things, the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu; such music is fully compatible with Jewish life as it was in Czechoslovakia when the country had a large and influential Jewish majority before Satan Incarnate (Hitler) took the country over in 1938 and 1939. Finding Jewish life so attractive at the least for intellectual freedom and gender equality, she converts to Judaism. She raises her children Jewish and starts assuming that her Swedish and German ancestors were really Jews. Her parents are incensed!   

Just imagine that she had attended Notre Dame, and fell in love with some sophisticated, intelligent, decent Polish-American Catholic from Chicago. He introduces her to the sort of culture that one would expect of well-educated Polish-Americans. He gets her to discover her Czech heritage, and she fits in. Her art often becomes heavily devotional to the Virgin Mary. Her parents are incensed!



 
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« Reply #117 on: June 18, 2015, 09:00:29 AM »

People are taking "you can be whatever you want to be when you grow up" way too literally and to a whole different level these days.
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« Reply #118 on: June 18, 2015, 09:59:20 AM »

I may risk going into psychobabble here, but there could be more than 'race' and 'white guilt' here. Rachel Dolezal is a bright daughter of Christian fundamentalist parents  who put her in a gilded cage. Czech ancestry? This is not likely a home in which the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu (they are delightful composers!) are a disproportionate part of the music on the stereo. This is the homogenized, shuttered world of fundamentalist preaching and scolding. Most likely it is one of sexual repression in which the sole purpose of sex is to have Christian fundamentalist children in huge numbers. An intelligent girl is likely to reject this view of life and seek something very different.

Race may not be an overt problem for religious fundamentalists. Christian Protestant Fundamentalism accept non-whites should they accept the package of Biblical literalism, cultural blandness, and sexual repression. Getting the opportunity to get as far away from that environment as possible, she went to a historically-black university with intellectual rigor. Not only did she discover African-American culture; she also discovered secularism which permits a greater variety of possible plans in life than marrying early to have lots of children to be harnessed to a stilted view of the world.

Just imagine that she had attended Brandeis University, a well-regarded Jewish university. She would have discovered a world view very different from that of her parents. She might have still gotten a degree in Fine Arts... and ended up marrying some wonderful Jewish husband who introduces her to, among other things, the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu; such music is fully compatible with Jewish life as it was in Czechoslovakia when the country had a large and influential Jewish majority before Satan Incarnate (Hitler) took the country over in 1938 and 1939. Finding Jewish life so attractive at the least for intellectual freedom and gender equality, she converts to Judaism. She raises her children Jewish and starts assuming that her Swedish and German ancestors were really Jews. Her parents are incensed!   

Just imagine that she had attended Notre Dame, and fell in love with some sophisticated, intelligent, decent Polish-American Catholic from Chicago. He introduces her to the sort of culture that one would expect of well-educated Polish-Americans. He gets her to discover her Czech heritage, and she fits in. Her art often becomes heavily devotional to the Virgin Mary. Her parents are incensed!

1: >99% of Czech-Americans do not listen to Czech classical composers.
2: For that matter the vast majority of the few Americans who do have no Czech ancestry. I've never noticed classical music fans being discriminating toward composers of their own ethnic background.
3: Jews and Polish-Americans are just as white as me or the family of Dolezal's upbringing.
4: Most Jews, Czech background or not, do not listen to classical music primarily of Czech composers.
5: Anyone who converts to Judaism who is intelligent enough to graduate college should be able to realize that converting to it does not retroactively make their ancestors Jewish. I do not believe that my ancestors are now retroactively emergent church Christians.
6: Most Polish-Americans do not make Virgin Mary devotional artwork, and the hyper-Catholic people who do likely come from all sorts of ethnic backgrounds.
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« Reply #119 on: June 18, 2015, 10:29:48 AM »

Who cares? Why is this national news? Why have you all been discussing this for 5 pages? Why am I writing this post?

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« Reply #120 on: June 18, 2015, 11:44:08 AM »

People are taking "you can be whatever you want to be when you grow up" way too literally and to a whole different level these days.
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« Reply #121 on: June 18, 2015, 04:41:24 PM »

This is really weird, and I can't even form an opinion on it, LOL.  I'll leave the reaction to the NAACP and, you know, Black people.
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« Reply #122 on: June 18, 2015, 07:57:27 PM »

I may risk going into psychobabble here, but there could be more than 'race' and 'white guilt' here. Rachel Dolezal is a bright daughter of Christian fundamentalist parents  who put her in a gilded cage. Czech ancestry? This is not likely a home in which the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu (they are delightful composers!) are a disproportionate part of the music on the stereo. This is the homogenized, shuttered world of fundamentalist preaching and scolding. Most likely it is one of sexual repression in which the sole purpose of sex is to have Christian fundamentalist children in huge numbers. An intelligent girl is likely to reject this view of life and seek something very different.

Race may not be an overt problem for religious fundamentalists. Christian Protestant Fundamentalism accept non-whites should they accept the package of Biblical literalism, cultural blandness, and sexual repression. Getting the opportunity to get as far away from that environment as possible, she went to a historically-black university with intellectual rigor. Not only did she discover African-American culture; she also discovered secularism which permits a greater variety of possible plans in life than marrying early to have lots of children to be harnessed to a stilted view of the world.

Just imagine that she had attended Brandeis University, a well-regarded Jewish university. She would have discovered a world view very different from that of her parents. She might have still gotten a degree in Fine Arts... and ended up marrying some wonderful Jewish husband who introduces her to, among other things, the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu; such music is fully compatible with Jewish life as it was in Czechoslovakia when the country had a large and influential Jewish majority before Satan Incarnate (Hitler) took the country over in 1938 and 1939. Finding Jewish life so attractive at the least for intellectual freedom and gender equality, she converts to Judaism. She raises her children Jewish and starts assuming that her Swedish and German ancestors were really Jews. Her parents are incensed!   

Just imagine that she had attended Notre Dame, and fell in love with some sophisticated, intelligent, decent Polish-American Catholic from Chicago. He introduces her to the sort of culture that one would expect of well-educated Polish-Americans. He gets her to discover her Czech heritage, and she fits in. Her art often becomes heavily devotional to the Virgin Mary. Her parents are incensed!

1: >99% of Czech-Americans do not listen to Czech classical composers.
2: For that matter the vast majority of the few Americans who do have no Czech ancestry. I've never noticed classical music fans being discriminating toward composers of their own ethnic background.
3: Jews and Polish-Americans are just as white as me or the family of Dolezal's upbringing.
4: Most Jews, Czech background or not, do not listen to classical music primarily of Czech composers.
5: Anyone who converts to Judaism who is intelligent enough to graduate college should be able to realize that converting to it does not retroactively make their ancestors Jewish. I do not believe that my ancestors are now retroactively emergent church Christians.
6: Most Polish-Americans do not make Virgin Mary devotional artwork, and the hyper-Catholic people who do likely come from all sorts of ethnic backgrounds.

OK -- You are right on all six. I doubt that her parents listened to any kind of classical music. I am roughly half German or Swiss and about half from the non-Catholic parts of the British Isles... and if I listen heavily to music of people from German-speaking lands such is a matter of quantity and quality. The preponderance of music in most classical music collections is by German-speaking composers due to quantity and quality I do not have a disproportionate amount of music from British, Scots, or Welsh composers.   Czech? Hungarian? Probably more than those from the British Isles -- and I have no Czech or Hungarian ancestors. Again, quantity and quality. Then there's Russia, one of the powerhouses of Western culture.

I am setting up a fictional scenario. Fiction can go into odd expressions.  In view of what she did in real life, she would go to the extreme in any pattern. She has some serious delusions, and I am trying to express how those might manifest themselves. She has done little in moderation and if she were to have found some different community to join, she become an extreme expression of whatever she joined.
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« Reply #123 on: June 19, 2015, 06:35:11 AM »
« Edited: June 19, 2015, 06:41:23 AM by Mechaman »

I may risk going into psychobabble here, but there could be more than 'race' and 'white guilt' here. Rachel Dolezal is a bright daughter of Christian fundamentalist parents  who put her in a gilded cage. Czech ancestry? This is not likely a home in which the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu (they are delightful composers!) are a disproportionate part of the music on the stereo. This is the homogenized, shuttered world of fundamentalist preaching and scolding. Most likely it is one of sexual repression in which the sole purpose of sex is to have Christian fundamentalist children in huge numbers. An intelligent girl is likely to reject this view of life and seek something very different.

Race may not be an overt problem for religious fundamentalists. Christian Protestant Fundamentalism accept non-whites should they accept the package of Biblical literalism, cultural blandness, and sexual repression. Getting the opportunity to get as far away from that environment as possible, she went to a historically-black university with intellectual rigor. Not only did she discover African-American culture; she also discovered secularism which permits a greater variety of possible plans in life than marrying early to have lots of children to be harnessed to a stilted view of the world.

Just imagine that she had attended Brandeis University, a well-regarded Jewish university. She would have discovered a world view very different from that of her parents. She might have still gotten a degree in Fine Arts... and ended up marrying some wonderful Jewish husband who introduces her to, among other things, the music of Smetana, Dvorak, and Martinu; such music is fully compatible with Jewish life as it was in Czechoslovakia when the country had a large and influential Jewish majority before Satan Incarnate (Hitler) took the country over in 1938 and 1939. Finding Jewish life so attractive at the least for intellectual freedom and gender equality, she converts to Judaism. She raises her children Jewish and starts assuming that her Swedish and German ancestors were really Jews. Her parents are incensed!  

Just imagine that she had attended Notre Dame, and fell in love with some sophisticated, intelligent, decent Polish-American Catholic from Chicago. He introduces her to the sort of culture that one would expect of well-educated Polish-Americans. He gets her to discover her Czech heritage, and she fits in. Her art often becomes heavily devotional to the Virgin Mary. Her parents are incensed!

1: >99% of Czech-Americans do not listen to Czech classical composers.
2: For that matter the vast majority of the few Americans who do have no Czech ancestry. I've never noticed classical music fans being discriminating toward composers of their own ethnic background.
3: Jews and Polish-Americans are just as white as me or the family of Dolezal's upbringing.
4: Most Jews, Czech background or not, do not listen to classical music primarily of Czech composers.
5: Anyone who converts to Judaism who is intelligent enough to graduate college should be able to realize that converting to it does not retroactively make their ancestors Jewish. I do not believe that my ancestors are now retroactively emergent church Christians.
6: Most Polish-Americans do not make Virgin Mary devotional artwork, and the hyper-Catholic people who do likely come from all sorts of ethnic backgrounds.

OK -- You are right on all six. I doubt that her parents listened to any kind of classical music. I am roughly half German or Swiss and about half from the non-Catholic parts of the British Isles... and if I listen heavily to music of people from German-speaking lands such is a matter of quantity and quality. The preponderance of music in most classical music collections is by German-speaking composers due to quantity and quality I do not have a disproportionate amount of music from British, Scots, or Welsh composers.   Czech? Hungarian? Probably more than those from the British Isles -- and I have no Czech or Hungarian ancestors. Again, quantity and quality. Then there's Russia, one of the powerhouses of Western culture.

I am setting up a fictional scenario. Fiction can go into odd expressions.  In view of what she did in real life, she would go to the extreme in any pattern. She has some serious delusions, and I am trying to express how those might manifest themselves. She has done little in moderation and if she were to have found some different community to join, she become an extreme expression of whatever she joined.

No, you just wanted an avenue to express your racist paternalistic notions of ethnic white people, much like a lot of your other posts on this board.

Very fitting you felt fit to post right into a thread about racism.  Now posters know what kind of posts to avoid if they want to be taken seriously.
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« Reply #124 on: June 19, 2015, 10:25:55 AM »
« Edited: June 27, 2015, 07:26:17 PM by pbrower2a »

No, you just wanted an avenue to express your racist paternalistic notions of ethnic white people, much like a lot of your other posts on this board.

Very fitting you felt fit to post right into a thread about racism.  Now posters know what kind of posts to avoid if they want to be taken seriously.

There is more to this story than race, as I have learned from further perusal of the news.

1. There is no superior culture. The one that I was brought up in? Hell no! I despise it for its insipidness. Thrust back into it, I feel alien and I can hardly wait to get away from it.  We Americans have freedom of cultural self-identification.  Many have composite cultures. The only question of inadequacy of a culture is if it is a criminal subculture or a destructive/exploitative cult... for obvious reasons.

I have much respect for all 'white ethnic' groups. The more that I meet of Mexican-Americans, the more I respect their rich and vibrant culture. Black culture? There is no single black culture, dammit, any more than there is any single "white culture"!

2. Parents cannot be certain that their children will grow up to like the milieu in which they were raised so much that they will preserve it completely. The pattern that I have seen is that people run from the excess in their parents' lives to what they were missing. How many people listen to the insipid "easy-listening" pap of the 1960s and 1970s as their parents did in the 1960s and 1970s?

We Americans are always redefining ourselves as a people from parent to child.

3. Youthful rebellion is NORMAL. It allows youth to become fully adult; without it people would wallow in increasingly-empty traditions. That is one way to cast off superstitions, manias, bad habits, phobias, and traditions that no longer work. Of course reality sets in and youth often discover the hard way why some of what they thought silly, priggish, and senseless aren't so silly, priggish, and senseless. Some people have far more to cast off, and some have more to retrieve, than others do.

We Americans sort things out that way. That makes us adaptable to momentous change. The Nazis laughed at American pop culture in the 1930s -- and it was America that survived. The Soviets laughed at the American counterculture as evidence of the failure of our culture as well as economics. Our system outlasted theirs. We Americans have flexibility that allows us to adapt to technology and discover what is best in recently-alien cultures.  

It may be hard to believe, but we have one of the most durable and resilient of empires (reference to scale and not to style of government) that has ever existed. The USA has been around as a political entity since the late 18th century, and it has always wielded power over an impressive landmass. Of course it does not resemble what it was 220 years ago.

The United States has proved more adaptable than, for example, the Roman Empire.

4. There's more to this than race. Rachel Dolezal reverted to her not-so-rare maiden name (probably so she could maintain her reputation and marketability as an artist) -- and she uses the Czech hacek above the "z" in some of her materials. She got a high-visibility position in an organization whose primary objective is the improvement of the lives of people who look much unlike what she looked like as a child. Those who knew her as a child were going to figure out what she was. She could not change her vocal patterns.  If she had taken a commonplace English surname (like Smith, Williams, Jones, etc.), she might have gotten away with it. She was not hiding.

5. Have you met the parents by watching the video plea for her? They have their own delusions. They called their daughter's choice to identify as black a disguise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/rachel-dolezal-evangelical-christian_n_7598562.html?cps=gravity_2425_-6379242375903799519
 
6. Christian Protestant Fundamentalism may have its virtues -- but it is easy to see how someone smart, imaginative, and creative could chafe under it. I certainly would have.  

7. Her parents apparently want her to return to their fold. In view of the black children that the parents have adopted, race is clearly not the issue. Secularism, which evangelicals consider a snare of evil, is much more of a problem to Christian evangelicals than is race.  
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