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WillipsBrighton
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« on: June 15, 2015, 09:44:19 PM »

For what it's worth, most SJWs I have observed have been very angry at this woman. They can't really explain why though. Half of them say this is different from transgenderism because race is a social construct and gender is unchanging. Half say because race is unchanging and gender is a social construct. Both arguments are rendered invalid when you bring up people who want to change their sex in addition to their gender (a good chunk of trans people).

Seems to me the only way to be consistent is to say live and let live, you can be whatever you want and identify however you want as long as you aren't hurting anyone.

Among my Black norm (non-intersectionalist) friends, most find it funny and don't mind. Among my Old Left Brocialist friends, most are supportive of the concept of transracialism.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2015, 01:23:21 PM »

This is just ridiculous. Trans-racial, trans-abled, trans-ethnic. All of it, these identity disorders, including that one- you know what I mean. I don't know why the medical community has completely abdicated their responsibility here.

There, I said it. Give this post 10 death points for intolerance and bigotry, if you wish. Heck, give the other ones where I've said anything about a "teakettle" 10 death points too, because that's what I was talking about (if it wasn't already obvious). This is the internet, I don't know why I should have to censor myself.

There's nothing bigoted about what you said. Things are completely out of control. I even read an article from a left-wing liberal professor, and he said his liberal college students, "scare him".

They're going so extreme, they seem to want a country with no laws, no race, no gender, no religion. It's gone beyond a John Lennon song now. It's gotta stop. You can cast the bait far out, but you still gotta have the line attached to pull it back in once in a while.

No. It's the opposite. They want an infinite number of genders and they want race set in stone forever.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2015, 02:18:03 PM »

Yes, we've come around to accept gay people after a long and public social debate where it's essentially been determined there's no good reason not to. Which is undoubtedly an excellent thing. With these things, however, it seems like they've trailed along unnoticed and that it is now mandatory that we not question anyone's right to "determine their own identity" without having ever really established why. So when talking to people, reading articles, and even, say The New York Times comment section, there's an overwhelming sense of bemusement as to "since when exactly did we decide this sort of thing was now normal?"

The answer to your question "why" is above in the same post "why not?"

But that still doesn't explain why SJWs love transgendered people but hate the idea of transracialism. It's not a logically consistent position.

Why not let people be transracial?
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2015, 02:38:25 PM »

I just don't believe that the left's backing of transgenderism is based on brain scans and I think it's disingenuous to claim that it is.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2015, 03:13:06 PM »

I just don't believe that the left's backing of transgenderism is based on brain scans and I think it's disingenuous to claim that it is.

No, what is disingenuous is trying to argue transracial and transgenderism are similar. It is a complete straw man and fail attempt at "gotcha" by opponents against transgenderism.

That's the problem. People attacking transracialism aren't even really attacking transracialism. They are attacking what they imagine are right-wingers with a hidden agenda making the argument. Yes, some right-wingers are doing that but just because their reasons for making the argument are crappy doesn't he argument itself is crappy.

By attacking transracialism, which is so painfully obviously analogous to transgenderism, liberals only make themselves look stupid and illogical.

It would be better to just admit, yes, they are very similar. They are similar like the right says, but they aren't bad like the right says. They are harmless. Let people do whatever they want.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2015, 09:27:50 PM »

Why shouldn't whites be allowed in the NAACP?  Several of their founders were white, and many white Americans who were active in the civil rights movement had membership with them.

Whites are allowed in the NAACP. No one said otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2015, 09:29:47 PM »

So if I say I'm a dinosaur, then everyone else should say I'm a dinosaur? What kinda morons are you guys?

The intersectionalist left/SJWs/cultural Marxists/whatever you want to call them do not support transracialism. There was some confusion the first couple of days but now they are all uniformly against it. If you defend it, you will be shouted down as transphobic and racist.

You can still be against the concept, but you're wrong to pretend its something that the left is pushing.
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2015, 09:31:26 PM »

wtf does "transracial" even mean??

wft does transgender even mean??

Is it offensive to you if I ask that question? If so, why is your question NOT offensive?
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2015, 01:21:24 PM »

You could make the same claim in regard to to transgendered people that being a woman is not something a man can do because they're bored.

At the end of it, I just see a lot of trans and pro-trans people saying things like "she's mentally ill" "you can't change genetics" "she's just pretending" and it's like what the hell, can these people hear themselves? Can they not see the irony?

To your credit, you don't seem to be making the argument most SJWs are making that race is genetic. 
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