President of Spokane NAACP outed as white imposter

[Simfan34]

How is it that we do not have a thread about this yet?

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http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33109866



The hair really must have taken effort, though. This is completely terrible yet stupefyingly brilliant. Although the comments about "checking light skinned people" are fairly disconcerting...

[Simfan34]

It's funny because some SJW types on Twitter are defending her saying she's "Transethnic" or some nonsense.

You do realize that basically 100% of the people peddling that line are right-wing 4chan/8chan/etc. trolls posing as SJWs for trollish purposes, no?

I think you may be in denial about the madness that exists on Tumblr.

To be fair, the liberal meltdown (just look at the NYT comments section) is hilarious to watch, and the fact that people are apparently now trying to pass as black somewhat gratifying, but some of the hijinks she was up to, and the things she was claiming happened to her, are clearly a right proper... minefield of awfulness.

But clearly, some people's brains have been completely fried. One person on Facebook was claiming the term "African American" should be used exclusively for black Americans of African descent who do not know the particulars of their ancestry, which would mean I technically am not African American, nor is, say, Alex Haley (to give an obvious example). Yet another was claiming that "this is different!" from the whole gender thing, because gender is a social construct while race is genetic. I just stared blankly at that one for a few moments. And then there were jokes that sounded as if they had originally written by members of the SS.

[Simfan34]

This is just ridiculous. Trans-racial, trans-abled, trans-ethnic. All of it, these identity disorders, including that one- you know what I mean. I don't know why the medical community has completely abdicated their responsibility here.

There, I said it. Give this post 10 death points for intolerance and bigotry, if you wish. Heck, give the other ones where I've said anything about a "teakettle" 10 death points too, because that's what I was talking about (if it wasn't already obvious). This is the internet, I don't know why I should have to censor myself.

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This is just ridiculous. Trans-racial, trans-abled, trans-ethnic. All of it, these self-conception disorders, including that one- you know what I mean. I don't know why the medical community has completely abdicated their responsibility here.

There, I said it. Give this post 10 death points for intolerance and bigotry, if you wish. Heck, give the other ones where I've said anything about a "teakettle" 10 death points too, because that's what I was talking about (if it wasn't already obvious).

Lol.  I mean...lol. 

Social constructs may be arbitrary, and some more so than others, but that doesn't mean I can arbitrarily hop around claiming I'm something other than what I'm normally considered to be. Dolezal may have an affinity for African-American culture and feel some kind of closeness to their identity, but that gives her as much right to call herself black as, say, a fondness for "European culture" and a belief in "WASP values" would give me a right to call myself white. It's absurdity.

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This is just ridiculous. Trans-racial, trans-abled, trans-ethnic. All of it, these identity disorders, including that one- you know what I mean. I don't know why the medical community has completely abdicated their responsibility here.

There, I said it. Give this post 10 death points for intolerance and bigotry, if you wish. Heck, give the other ones where I've said anything about a "teakettle" 10 death points too, because that's what I was talking about (if it wasn't already obvious). This is the internet, I don't know why I should have to censor myself.

There's nothing bigoted about what you said. Things are completely out of control. I even read an article from a left-wing liberal professor, and he said his liberal college students, "scare him".

They're going so extreme, they seem to want a country with no laws, no race, no gender, no religion. It's gone beyond a John Lennon song now. It's gotta stop. You can cast the bait far out, but you still gotta have the line attached to pull it back in once in a while.

No. It's the opposite. They want an infinite number of genders and they want race set in stone forever.

I saw a comment to that extent, that read something like "No, you have it wrong, gender is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT while race is GENETIC." I was just left wonder if such concepts of race weren't precisely what people spent the last century trying to dispel.

So much of the stuff I read these days coming from these sources (and remember, where I am, it's omnipresent), doesn't really even generate a feeling of outrage or revulsion, but just a pure, uncomprehending sense of "wait...what?!"

[Simfan34]

Yes, we've come around to accept gay people after a long and public social debate where it's essentially been determined there's no good reason not to. Which is undoubtedly an excellent thing. With these things, however, it seems like they've trailed along unnoticed and that it is now mandatory that we not question anyone's right to "determine their own identity" without having ever really established why. So when talking to people, reading articles, and even, say The New York Times comment section, there's an overwhelming sense of bemusement as to "since when exactly did we decide this sort of thing was now normal?"

[Simfan34]

That's correct, but I wasn't referring to gay people when I mentioned that.

Although perhaps "assert their own identity" would be closer to what I was intending.

EDIT: Perhaps not. "Claim an identity", maybe. I'm thinking of simply presenting a self-identification and forbidding it from being it questioned.

[Simfan34]

I just don't believe that the left's backing of transgenderism is based on brain scans and I think it's disingenuous to claim that it is.

Yes, again, my reaction was, "it does?"

[Simfan34]

I just don't believe that the left's backing of transgenderism is based on brain scans and I think it's disingenuous to claim that it is.

No, what is disingenuous is trying to argue transracial and transgenderism are similar. It is a complete straw man and fail attempt at "gotcha" by opponents against transgenderism.

That's the problem. People attacking transracialism aren't even really attacking transracialism. They are attacking what they imagine are right-wingers with a hidden agenda making the argument. Yes, some right-wingers are doing that but just because their reasons for making the argument are crappy doesn't he argument itself is crappy.

By attacking transracialism, which is so painfully obviously analogous to transgenderism, liberals only make themselves look stupid and illogical.

It would be better to just admit, yes, they are very similar. They are similar like the right says, but they aren't bad like the right says. They are harmless. Let people do whatever they want.

Why not the converse?

[Simfan34]

It's just extraordinarily hilarious seeing the rhetorical knots liberals are tying themselves into over this.

[Simfan34]

Her parents are Christian fundamentalists? Who adopted black kids?

[Simfan34]

Transracial makes more sense than transgender, honestly.

But it's less real.

Only feels are real.

Like the feels that make trans people kill themselves? The ones caused by people like you?

The fact that mentally unstable people act unstably is unfortunate, but I don't see how it makes their cause somehow a noblesse oblige. Depressed people kill themselves. Grad students kill themselves. Religious extremists kill themselves. People do terrible, selfish things for all manner of reasons.

Some are willing to die to tear down the immutability of morality and objective reality to establish a world where identity and truth exists from moment-to-moment on your own selfish feelings, whims, and wishes. They are not martyrs. They are extremists, and people are too afraid to offend anyone that they decide to placate them instead.

Bravo! Truly excellent. Bravo.