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« on: June 14, 2015, 07:27:30 PM »

   In the year 2024, the United Nations has decided to conduct its first worldwide elections for Secretary-General. Previously, the Secretary-General of the United Nations was appointed by the United Nations General Assembly, though due to the passage of UN Resolution 2669, all future Secretaries-General will be elected by the international population to five year terms, with elections taking place on December 1 and the new Secretary-General taking office on January 1 of the next year. According to the resolution, the first international election shall take place on December 1, 2024, with all member states of the United Nations participating.



   However, realizing that a simple popular vote election could lead to the interests of less populous countries being ignored, the United Nations has devised a sort of Electoral College, similar to the one used by the United States until it was abolished by President Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2022. The Electoral College, while apportioning votes among nations based off of their populations, does give an advantage to less populous nations, as each nation is given at least 1 out of 1057 electoral votes, regardless of whether the nation’s actual population is more or less than 1/1057 of the world’s total population. Like the system previously used in the United States, the winner of the popular vote in each nation receives all of the nation’s electoral votes. Electoral apportionments are as follows:


China
189
India
176
United States
44
Indonesia
35
Brazil
28
Pakistan
26
Nigeria
25
Bangladesh
22
Russia
20
Japan
18
Mexico
17
Philippines
14
Vietnam
13
Ethiopia
12
Egypt
12
Germany
11
Iran
11
Turkey
11
DROC
10
France
9
Thailand
9
United Kingdom
9
Italy
8
South Africa
7
Burma
7
South Korea
7
Colombia
7
Tanzania
7
Kenya
6
Spain
6
Argentina
6
Ukraine
6
Algeria
5
Poland
5
Sudan
5
Iraq
5
Canada
5
Uganda
5
Morocco
5
Saudi Arabia
4
Peru
4
Uzbekistan
4
Malaysia
4
Venezuela
4
Nepal
4
Afghanistan
4
Ghana
4
Yemen
4
Mozambique
4
North Korea
4
Angola
3
Australia
3
Taiwan
3
Syria
3
Ivory Coast
3
Madagascar
3
Cameroon
3
Sri Lanka
3
Romania
3
Nigeria
3
Burkina Faso
3
Chile
3
Kazakhstan
2
Netherlands
2
Malawi
2
Mali
2
Guatemala
2
Ecuador
2
Zambia
2
Cambodia
2
Chad
2
Senegal
2
Zimbabwe
2
DR
2
South Sudan
2
Bolivia
2
Belgium
2
Cuba
2
Somalia
2
Rwanda
2
Tunisia
2
Haiti
2
Greece
2
Guinea
2
Czech Republic
2

   All other nations are each given one electoral vote, providing for a grand total of 1057 votes in the United Nations Electoral College. 529 electoral votes must be won by a candidate in order to win the worldwide election, with each individual nation’s government choosing the electoral system (first past the post, instant-runoff voting, etc.) that will be used to determine who wins all of that individual nation’s electoral votes.

   If no candidate wins a majority of the worldwide electoral votes, the last-place candidate must automatically concede and give all of his or her electoral votes to another candidate of his or her choice. If a majority is still not reached, the new last-place candidate must do the same, etc. until one candidate has at least 529 electoral votes.

   In the 2024 election, two main candidates have emerged. Representing the Social-Democratic Party (SDP) is United States President Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is facing off against Russian President Vladimir Putin of the Conservative Traditionalist Party (CTP). Clinton’s running mate, who will serve as Deputy Secretary-General of the United Nations if elected, is Israeli Prime Minister Isaac Herzog, while Putin’s running mate is Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. Recent election polling shows the two candidates neck-and-neck, with most major international political analysts calling the race a toss-up. Stay tuned for the first election results!



   Please feel free to post replies with any comments, questions, suggestions, etc. Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2015, 10:23:04 PM »

Kewl concept but first, could you explain how Hillary managed to win two terms after the failed presidency of Obama and excellent campaign of the GOP Presidential ticket of Rand Paul/Carly Fiorina. Plus the Electoral College in the U.S. Constitution can only abolished by Constitutional Amendment and that is one of the hardest legal actions to possibly pull off. Especially with most of the state's being led by both GOP governors and legislators by numbers not seen since before FDR. The only way this could happen is a massive progressive wave next year IRL and while on marriage supremacy (national legalization of gay marriage in clear violation of the 10th Amendment), the left is doing fine there bypassing the will of the people and state legislatures, I don't see a 2010 type wave happening in favor of the left for at least the next 20 years.

Hillary can't abolish the Electoral College by executive fiat as I've explained above.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2015, 05:23:40 PM »

Kewl concept but first, could you explain how Hillary managed to win two terms after the failed presidency of Obama and excellent campaign of the GOP Presidential ticket of Rand Paul/Carly Fiorina. Plus the Electoral College in the U.S. Constitution can only abolished by Constitutional Amendment and that is one of the hardest legal actions to possibly pull off. Especially with most of the state's being led by both GOP governors and legislators by numbers not seen since before FDR. The only way this could happen is a massive progressive wave next year IRL and while on marriage supremacy (national legalization of gay marriage in clear violation of the 10th Amendment), the left is doing fine there bypassing the will of the people and state legislatures, I don't see a 2010 type wave happening in favor of the left for at least the next 20 years.

Hillary can't abolish the Electoral College by executive fiat as I've explained above.

Clinton defeated Jeb Bush 385-153 in 2016 and, after a popular first term, defeated Chris Christie 374-164 in 2020. Democrats gained control of both chambers of Congress in 2016 (they had an extremely small majority in the House and a comfortable majority in the Senate), lost the House in 2018, and regained it in 2020. The GOP retook the House again in 2022, though by this time, the Electoral College had already been abolished.

In late 2020, Senators Dick Durbin and Rand Paul introduced a constitutional amendment regarding electoral reform that eliminated the Electoral College and proposed that the winner of the popular vote wins the presidential election. Clinton and congressional leaders worked tirelessly to make the bill seem like a bipartisan effort, and by late 2021, were able to secure the Senate 71-39 and the House 293-142, with all Democrats and some Republicans (mostly moderates and libertarians) supporting the amendment. By September 2022, the necessary 3/4 of the states had ratified the amendment, with all blue states, most purple states, and some red states voting to approve the measure:



State governments reacted surprisingly well to the amendment compared to the federal government, with many state legislators in both parties voting to support the amendment due to its widespread public support (boosted by a well-orchestrated media and public awareness campaign). All leftist states immediately supported the measure, with the support of purple states coming not far behind. Due to the advocacy of many libertarian and moderate Republicans, some of the larger red states (Texas, etc.) eventually decided to support the amendment after realizing the Electoral College favors small states. The final state to vote in support of the amendment was Montana which, even though small and right-leaning, managed to squeeze out a thin Yea vote in both legislative chambers and sent the amendment to Governor Mary Caferro. The amendment was officially added to the United States Constitution on September 11, 2022.

This is really off-topic anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2015, 06:53:00 PM »

Are you gonna make a world electoral map???
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2015, 07:16:39 PM »

2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections

December 1, 2024 - Election Day Coverage With CNN's Jake Tapper


"Hello, and welcome to CNN's Election Day Coverage for the 2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections. I'm Jake Tapper, and tonight we'll be looking at one of the most important political events of the century. For those of you who do not know, United Nations Resolution 2669, passed in December of last year by the UN General Assembly, called for worldwide elections to be held every five years in order to determine who becomes the next Secretary-General of the United Nations. The UN Secretary-General, arguably the most powerful political position in the world, used to be appointed directly by the UN General Assembly, though due to the passage of Resolution 2669, all future Secretaries-General will be elected by popular vote. In tonight's election, United States President Hillary Clinton of the Social-Democratic Party will face Russian President Vladimir Putin of the Conservative Traditionalist Party. Most believe that this election is a definitive toss-up, with clear paths to victory for both candidates and no obvious front-runner for the election. Remember that, just like presidential elections in the United States before the passage of the 28th Amendment, the election will be decided though an Electoral College system, with the winner of the election in each nation winning all of that nation's electoral votes. 529 of the 1057 electoral votes are needed to win the election. The United States has 44 electoral votes, all of which will almost certainly go for President Clinton. Let's go over to Anderson Cooper to learn more about the election."


"Thanks, Jake. Before the first polls close, let's look at some trends that will be apparent in the election results."

"First, the religious divide. While President Clinton seems to be polling well among both Protestants and Catholics in most nations, President Putin seems to be winning a vast majority of the Orthodox Christian vote worldwide. Both Jews and Hindus are also leaning in support of Hillary - a large asset in nations like Israel and the key swing nation of India - though Muslims are overwhelmingly in support of President Putin, which will certainly be a huge bonus for him in the Arab world."

"We should also look at some geographic trends. While both North and South America seem to be avid in their support for our nation's president - with the only possible outliers being the nations of Cuba, Colombia, and Venezuela - Asia certainly seems to be trending towards President Putin - with, of course, exceptions such as the nations of Japan, South Korea, Afghanistan, Thailand, Pakistan, and India - all of which are either safe Clinton nations or tossups. Furthermore, Europe and Australia are leaning decisively in favor of Mrs. Clinton, while the Middle East and its large Muslim population is one of Putin's most favored regions. Africa seems to be a clear divide between the two candidates, with Putin claiming most of Northern Africa's Muslim nations and Clinton displaying a clear lead in most of Southern Africa's Christian nations."

"Before we look at the first election results, we should also look at the key swing nations that will determine who wins the election. The biggest swing nation is India, which, with 176 electoral votes, has the second-largest amount of influence in this election. Most Indian polls indicate that the candidates are neck-and-neck, with no clear front-runner emerging in this southern Asian nation. Out of the top ten most populous nations, three others are toss-ups - Indonesia, Nigeria, and Pakistan. All three of these nations will play a large part in determining who wins the election. Other swing nations include Cuba, Colombia, Venezuela, Tanzania, Mozambique, the Central African Republic, Jordan, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Albania, Mongolia, Nepal, Thailand, and Laos. Now, back to Jake Tapper."


"Thanks, Anderson. Before we look at the first poll closings, let's look at when the polls in different nations will come in."



"The key for the poll closing times map is as follows:"

Light Orange - 3:00 AM
Light Purple - 5:00 AM
Light Blue - 6:00 AM
Red - 7:00 AM
Pink - 8:00 AM
Brown - 9:00 AM
Purple - 10:00 AM
Light Green - 11:00 AM
Orange - 12:00 PM
Yellow - 1:00 PM
Green - 2:00 PM
Blue - 3:00 PM
Maroon - 6:00 PM
Dark Grey - 7:00 PM
Teal - 8:00 PM
Light Grey - 9:00 PM
Cerulean - 11:00 PM
Tan - 1:00 AM

"As you can see, polls will be closing throughout the next 24 hours. As it is 3:00 AM our time right now, the first polls should be coming in. Note that many island nations, though located in time zones earlier than the one represented by light orange on our map, have decided to postpone elections by one day for timing purposes. Results from these nations will come in early tomorrow morning, most likely after the winning candidate has already been decided."

"At this hour, poll results are coming in from the only two nations in the UTC+12:00 (light orange) time zone that have decided not to postpone elections until tomorrow. These two nations are New Zealand and Fiji. Remember, 529 of the 1057 total electoral votes are needed to win the presidency."

"At this time, both New Zealand and Fiji can be called as safe for President Hillary Clinton. Though both of these nations each have only one electoral vote, they do give United States President Hillary Clinton of the Social-Democratic Party a two-vote lead ahead of Russian President Vladimir Putin of the Conservative Traditionalist Party. Here are the results for those two nations."

New Zealand:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 72%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 28%

Fiji:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 91%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 9%


"And here is our electoral map for this time:"



"In the next 24 hours, more poll results will determine who will be the next Secretary-General of the United Nations. I'm Jake Tapper of CNN News, we'll be back after the break."
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2015, 07:35:03 PM »

You're actually doing maps nice!

This is a great idea and it looks promising, keep it up!
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2015, 07:40:26 PM »

OMG, this is awesome...
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2015, 08:43:27 PM »

Go Putin!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2015, 09:39:51 PM »

Awesome TL!
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2015, 10:40:19 PM »

Clinton or Putin....

I can see why this is a tossup, lol

anyways amazing timeline so far! Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2015, 06:25:11 PM »

2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections

December 1, 2024 - Election Day Coverage With CNN's Jake Tapper



5:00 AM Election Update

"Hello, and welcome back to CNN's Election Day Coverage for the 2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections. I'm your host, Jake Tapper, and we're just now getting reports that the polls have closed in Papua New Guinea, the only nation in the UTC+10:00 Time Zone that has decided not to postpone its elections until tomorrow. As of this time, we can safely call the nation of Papua New Guinea for United States President Hillary Rodham Clinton:"

Papua New Guinea:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 67%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 33%


"Papua New Guinea, a relatively sparsely-populated nation, gives only one electoral vote to Mrs. Clinton, though does add to her now three-vote lead against Russian President Vladimir Putin of the Conservative Traditionalist Party. Remember, 529 of the 1057 total worldwide electoral votes are needed to win the election. Here's our current electoral map:"



"In the next hour, poll results will be coming in for the nations of Japan, North Korea, and South Korea, all of which have key electoral influence in the overall outcome of this year's Secretary-General election. Stay tuned for more up-to-date electoral coverage. I'm Jake Tapper, and this is CNN."

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6:00 AM Election Update

"Hello, and welcome back to CNN's Election Day Coverage of the 2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections. I'm Jake Tapper, and right now we're just getting in reports that polls have closed in the three nations of Japan, North Korea, and South Korea. Each of these nations are large electoral prizes for our candidates, as they all contain multiple electoral votes - Japan with 18, North Korea with 4, and South Korea with 7. Unsurprisingly, we are now able to call both the nations of Japan and South Korea for United States President Hillary Clinton of the Social-Democratic Party, while the nation of North Korea can now easily be called for Russian President Vladimir Putin of the Conservative Traditionalist Party."

Japan:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 67%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 33%


North Korea:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 100%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 0%


South Korea:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 89%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 11%


"While some accuse North Korean government officials of committing electoral fraud and/or coercing citizens to vote for President Putin, the United Nations Committee on Elections has decided not to challenge the result due to the unlikelihood that the result of the election in North Korea would change if investigations were held, as well as safety concerns due to repeated threats from the North Korean government. Here is our current electoral map:"


"Due to the results that have just come in, United States President Hillary Clinton's electoral vote count has increased to 28, while Russian President Vladimir Putin is in a distant second with a total of 4 electoral votes as of this hour. However, anything could happen, as either candidate still needs a total of 529 electoral votes in order to win the election. In the next hour, we'll be getting in results from the nations of Australia, Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines, Mongolia, and China. While Malaysia and Mongolia are key swing nations that could go for either candidate, both the Philippines and Australia are seen as safe nations for Clinton. Meanwhile, the nations of Brunei and China, the nation with the highest electoral vote count, are seen as safe for President Putin. I'm Jake Tapper, this is CNN."
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2015, 09:32:27 PM »

You're actually doing maps nice!

This is a great idea and it looks promising, keep it up!



Clinton or Putin....

I can see why this is a tossup, lol

anyways amazing timeline so far! Smiley

Thanks guys! Cheesy I appreciate the support!
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2015, 09:39:35 PM »

This is fascinating!
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2015, 09:51:04 AM »



Thank you! Smiley I have the next update ready; I'll post it ASAP.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2015, 10:24:14 AM »

It's awesome.
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2015, 10:25:57 AM »


Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2015, 11:04:59 AM »

2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections

December 1, 2024 - Election Day Coverage With CNN's Jake Tapper


7:00 AM Election Update

"Hi, and welcome back to CNN's Election Day Coverage for the 2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections; I'm your host, Jake Tapper, and we're reporting live from Washington, D.C. to give you the latest news and returns from today's worldwide election. This hour, we have breaking election returns coming from seven countries in Asia and Oceania that could determine the outcome of the race between United States President Hillary Clinton and Russian President Vladimir Putin that will define the path our world takes throughout the next five years. Before we go to Anderson Cooper with those results, however, let's take a look at poll closing times from around the globe:"




"The key for the poll closing times map is as follows:"

Light Orange - 3:00 AM
Light Purple - 5:00 AM
Light Blue - 6:00 AM
Red - 7:00 AM
Pink - 8:00 AM
Brown - 9:00 AM
Purple - 10:00 AM
Light Green - 11:00 AM
Orange - 12:00 PM
Yellow - 1:00 PM
Green - 2:00 PM
Blue - 3:00 PM
Maroon - 6:00 PM
Dark Grey - 7:00 PM
Teal - 8:00 PM
Light Grey - 9:00 PM
Cerulean - 11:00 PM
Tan - 1:00 AM

"As you can see, reporting the results from this election will be a day-long event, and many expect that finalizing the returns, especially in nations in which the margin between the two candidates is small, will take until long after today's broadcast ends. However, we are now able to make a variety of calls regarding the 7:00 AM poll closings in the nations of China, Mongolia, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, Australia, and the Philippines. Let's go to Anderson for those results."



"Thanks, Jake. CNN's Election Center can now call the results of the nationwide elections in the following countries:"

Singapore:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 71%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 29%

The Philippines:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 83%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 17%

Brunei:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 94%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 6%

China:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 62%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 38%

Australia:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 75%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 25%

Malaysia:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 59%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 41%


"As you can see, Russian President Vladimir Putin has won the key nation of China, which boasts the largest number of electoral votes - 189 - of any nation. This is clearly a huge win for Mr. Putin, though does not come as a large surprise. Meanwhile, President Clinton has easily captured the nation of the Philippines, which, though not nearly as populous as its Chinese neighbor, still holds a decent prize of 14 electoral votes. However, though CNN does feel safe calling six of the seven nations that close their polls at this hour, our network does not yet feel comfortable calling the nation of Mongolia, which at this time, is experiencing an extremely close race between the two candidates:

Mongolia:
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 51%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 49%


"As you can see, at this time, President Putin is only leading by a margin of one point, meaning that this election is anyone's game. Due to the close margin in the nation of Mongolia, we are currently unable to call it, and will represent it, along with other uncalled nations, using the color red on our current electoral map:"



"With the addition of the six called nations that have released poll returns this hour, the electoral vote count is now at 198 electoral votes for President Vladimir Putin of Russia, compared to a mere 46 electoral votes for President Hillary Clinton of the United States. Clearly, as 529 of the 1057 total worldwide electoral votes are needed to achieve victory, this election is still anyone's game. I'm Anderson Cooper; this is CNN."
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2015, 01:53:53 PM »

Man this is awesome. I wish I could have thought of it first Sad

Did you make these maps or are they just general maps you found somewhere?
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2015, 02:44:00 PM »

Man this is awesome. I wish I could have thought of it first Sad

Did you make these maps or are they just general maps you found somewhere?

Thanks!

I found the blank world map on Google and just filled it in on MS Paint.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2015, 02:18:30 AM »

I'm pretty sure Hilldawg would lead Colombian preferences just like in most Latin American countries, maybe even more.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2015, 06:52:13 AM »

The matchup seems basically to pit liberal democracy against authoritarian autocracy in all its forms. As such, the ideological labels ("social democrat", "conservative") of the parties matter little. Very interesting concept!
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2015, 03:50:33 PM »

Kewl concept but first, could you explain how Hillary managed to win two terms after the failed presidency of Obama and excellent campaign of the GOP Presidential ticket of Rand Paul/Carly Fiorina. Plus the Electoral College in the U.S. Constitution can only abolished by Constitutional Amendment and that is one of the hardest legal actions to possibly pull off. Especially with most of the state's being led by both GOP governors and legislators by numbers not seen since before FDR. The only way this could happen is a massive progressive wave next year IRL and while on marriage supremacy (national legalization of gay marriage in clear violation of the 10th Amendment), the left is doing fine there bypassing the will of the people and state legislatures, I don't see a 2010 type wave happening in favor of the left for at least the next 20 years.

Hillary can't abolish the Electoral College by executive fiat as I've explained above.

Clinton defeated Jeb Bush 385-153 in 2016 and, after a popular first term, defeated Chris Christie 374-164 in 2020. Democrats gained control of both chambers of Congress in 2016 (they had an extremely small majority in the House and a comfortable majority in the Senate), lost the House in 2018, and regained it in 2020. The GOP retook the House again in 2022, though by this time, the Electoral College had already been abolished.

In late 2020, Senators Dick Durbin and Rand Paul introduced a constitutional amendment regarding electoral reform that eliminated the Electoral College and proposed that the winner of the popular vote wins the presidential election. Clinton and congressional leaders worked tirelessly to make the bill seem like a bipartisan effort, and by late 2021, were able to secure the Senate 71-39 and the House 293-142, with all Democrats and some Republicans (mostly moderates and libertarians) supporting the amendment. By September 2022, the necessary 3/4 of the states had ratified the amendment, with all blue states, most purple states, and some red states voting to approve the measure:



State governments reacted surprisingly well to the amendment compared to the federal government, with many state legislators in both parties voting to support the amendment due to its widespread public support (boosted by a well-orchestrated media and public awareness campaign). All leftist states immediately supported the measure, with the support of purple states coming not far behind. Due to the advocacy of many libertarian and moderate Republicans, some of the larger red states (Texas, etc.) eventually decided to support the amendment after realizing the Electoral College favors small states. The final state to vote in support of the amendment was Montana which, even though small and right-leaning, managed to squeeze out a thin Yea vote in both legislative chambers and sent the amendment to Governor Mary Caferro. The amendment was officially added to the United States Constitution on September 11, 2022.

This is really off-topic anyway.

Libertarians and Conservatives beat it. Indiana and Texas for sure will lead the opposition and this amendment fails. The Moderates/establishment wing of the GOPis not getting the nominee in 2016 or 2020.

While I like the concept, I have problems with the plausibility of first, Hillary getting elected president and Libertarian Republicans (of which I happen to be) supporting repealing the Electoral College.
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2015, 01:58:58 AM »
« Edited: June 25, 2015, 02:18:51 AM by izixs »

I've thought about doing a timeline like this from time to time. Keep it up!

Also, this might be a good map template to use going forward as it exaggerates the tiny countries so they're visible: http://i.imgur.com/vBlJhFU.png
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2015, 10:45:55 AM »

Kewl concept but first, could you explain how Hillary managed to win two terms after the failed presidency of Obama and excellent campaign of the GOP Presidential ticket of Rand Paul/Carly Fiorina. Plus the Electoral College in the U.S. Constitution can only abolished by Constitutional Amendment and that is one of the hardest legal actions to possibly pull off. Especially with most of the state's being led by both GOP governors and legislators by numbers not seen since before FDR. The only way this could happen is a massive progressive wave next year IRL and while on marriage supremacy (national legalization of gay marriage in clear violation of the 10th Amendment), the left is doing fine there bypassing the will of the people and state legislatures, I don't see a 2010 type wave happening in favor of the left for at least the next 20 years.

Hillary can't abolish the Electoral College by executive fiat as I've explained above.

Clinton defeated Jeb Bush 385-153 in 2016 and, after a popular first term, defeated Chris Christie 374-164 in 2020. Democrats gained control of both chambers of Congress in 2016 (they had an extremely small majority in the House and a comfortable majority in the Senate), lost the House in 2018, and regained it in 2020. The GOP retook the House again in 2022, though by this time, the Electoral College had already been abolished.

In late 2020, Senators Dick Durbin and Rand Paul introduced a constitutional amendment regarding electoral reform that eliminated the Electoral College and proposed that the winner of the popular vote wins the presidential election. Clinton and congressional leaders worked tirelessly to make the bill seem like a bipartisan effort, and by late 2021, were able to secure the Senate 71-39 and the House 293-142, with all Democrats and some Republicans (mostly moderates and libertarians) supporting the amendment. By September 2022, the necessary 3/4 of the states had ratified the amendment, with all blue states, most purple states, and some red states voting to approve the measure:



State governments reacted surprisingly well to the amendment compared to the federal government, with many state legislators in both parties voting to support the amendment due to its widespread public support (boosted by a well-orchestrated media and public awareness campaign). All leftist states immediately supported the measure, with the support of purple states coming not far behind. Due to the advocacy of many libertarian and moderate Republicans, some of the larger red states (Texas, etc.) eventually decided to support the amendment after realizing the Electoral College favors small states. The final state to vote in support of the amendment was Montana which, even though small and right-leaning, managed to squeeze out a thin Yea vote in both legislative chambers and sent the amendment to Governor Mary Caferro. The amendment was officially added to the United States Constitution on September 11, 2022.

This is really off-topic anyway.

Libertarians and Conservatives beat it. Indiana and Texas for sure will lead the opposition and this amendment fails. The Moderates/establishment wing of the GOPis not getting the nominee in 2016 or 2020.

While I like the concept, I have problems with the plausibility of first, Hillary getting elected president and Libertarian Republicans (of which I happen to be) supporting repealing the Electoral College.

Indiana and Texas are both pretty big states when it comes to electoral votes, meaning their influence is curbed by the Electoral College. While you might think their GOP state governments would oppose abolishing the EC because the Republicans would no longer get all of those state's votes, the state governments also realize that abolishing the EC would help them by making sure large D states like California and New York don't get to give all of their votes to the Democratic candidate.

I don't know why you think Hillary getting elected is implausible; she's leading in a good number of polls by significant margins and will attract a huge donor base in the general election.

By 2022, most libertarians (by that I mean libertarian Republicans, not people in the Libertarian Party) support abolishing the Electoral College because they believe it will give more freedom to voters in states that are disadvantaged by the Electoral College by giving them more influence. Even those in the Libertarian Party support reform by this point because while the Libertarian presidential candidates are now winning significant portions of the popular vote (3.1% in 2020), they aren't winning any electoral votes and would rather have a system in which the Libertarian presidential candidate wins 3.1% of the vote that matters than a system in which the Libertarian presidential candidate wins 0% of the vote that matters.
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2015, 11:19:28 AM »

2024 United Nations Secretary-General Elections

December 1, 2024 - Election Day Coverage With CNN's Jake Tapper


8:00 AM Election Update

"Hello, and welcome back to CNN's Election Day coverage for the 2024 United Nations Secretary-General Election. I'm your host, Jake Tapper, and today we're seeing one of the most significant elections in the history of democracy as we know it - that for the position of Secretary-General of the United Nations. In today's election, United States President Hillary Clinton of the Social Democratic Party is facing off against Russian President Vladimir Putin of the Conservative Traditionalist Party for control of the United Nations' top administrative position. As of now, with the addition of the swing nation of Mongolia to his electoral vote count, President Putin has 199 of the 529 electoral votes needed to win the position, compared to only 46 for President Clinton. However, at this point, anything could happen. Let's go over to Anderson Cooper for this hour's poll closings."



"Thanks, Jake. This hour, we will see poll closings in the southeastern Asian nations of Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, and, most importantly of all, Indonesia, a swing nation with one of the largest electoral prizes - 35 electoral votes - in the world. Though many political pundits following the election closely predicted that Indonesia, along with the nations of Thailand and Laos, would foster extremely close electoral results, we are able to call all five nations at this time."

Vietnam:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 75%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 25%

Cambodia:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 89%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 11%

Laos:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 58%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 42%

Thailand:
✓Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 59%
Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 41%

Indonesia:
✓Vladimir Putin (CTP-RUS) - 56%
Hillary Clinton (SDP-USA) - 44%




"As you can see, President Putin of the Conservative Traditionalist Party has won the four nations of Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Indonesia, compared to only one victory in Thailand for President Clinton of the Social Democratic Party. This comes as a stunning blow for the Social Democrats, who were hoping to regain lost ground by picking up the large electoral prize in the nation of Indonesia. However, the results have been finalized, and we can now safely report at this time that President Putin has established a clear lead, with 250 electoral votes compared to Clinton's 55. That's an extremely large deficit that Clinton will need to make up in order to win the election. However, as 529 are needed to win the election, the Secretary-General's office is still anyone's game. I'm Anderson Cooper; this is CNN."
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