National Parks Act of 2015

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Still, what is the likely impact on water supplies if the resevoir is drained? We cannot operate in a complete vacuum from the realistic impacts of what such an action might entail for the region.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Draining Lake Powell would represent a major blow to the water supply in the southwest Pacific region.

Remember that decades of water scrubbing will have made the canyon bleachy white, so the natural beauty is already and permanently degraded.

Passing that section with no realistic replacement of those water management tools would be a tremendous blow to the economy of the region.  Water shortages and power shortages would begin immediately since already the system is strained.

I cannot vote for this bill with item D included.  Certainly not as is.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I would add that water shortages are already a thing, due to a severe ongoing drought in the region.

[Blair]

doesn't section d say that the water will be transferred?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     If we're going to transfer it to another lake, why not just keep it in Lake Powell?

[Blair]

     If we're going to transfer it to another lake, why not just keep it in Lake Powell?

Because Lake Powell is becoming a national park, according to the bill

[Associate Justice PiT]

     If we're going to transfer it to another lake, why not just keep it in Lake Powell?

Because Lake Powell is becoming a national park, according to the bill

     Snowguy made the point that water erosion has already defaced the landscape. There's little point in making that a national park, as opposed to some other place that isn't already a reservoir.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Snowguy's knowledge of environmental issues is surpassed by no one, love or hate his position on climate change, his knows his stuff on a generalized basis and across every facet of environmental protection.


I think he is right about the defacing of the landscape. How long has this lake existed?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I agree with Senator Snowguy on this front.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

In order to progress this, we will need a new sponsor for this Bill. 24 hours for those interested to nominate.

We will then move to the amendment offered by Senator Yankee.

[Blair]

I'll sponsor it

[Ban my account ffs!]

I offer the following amendment.

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Sponsor - Talleyrand

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

As there's no objection to Senator Blair assuming sponsorship?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I don't have any objection.

I think I have seen maybe one time a sponsorship assumption was objected to and that involved Napoleon in some fashion if I am not mistaken.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I don't have any objection.

I think I have seen maybe one time a sponsorship assumption was objected to and that involved Napoleon in some fashion if I am not mistaken.

Nope, me and police bill

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I don't have any objection.

I think I have seen maybe one time a sponsorship assumption was objected to and that involved Napoleon in some fashion if I am not mistaken.

Nope, me and police bill

I was kind of not here for most of that if I recall.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I don't have any objection.

I think I have seen maybe one time a sponsorship assumption was objected to and that involved Napoleon in some fashion if I am not mistaken.

Nope, me and police bill

I was kind of not here for most of that if I recall.

     Say it ain't so!

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Senator Blair has assumed sponsorship of this Bill.


I offer the following amendment.

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Senator Snowguy has offered the following amendment, are there any objections? 24 hours.

[Senator Cris]

Senator Snowguy, can you make the case for your amendment?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Why was my amendment skipped?

Yes it is contained within Snowguy's amendment, but his also contains a replacement clause that could thus result in failure on the merits of that addition clause and not on the removal of clause d.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Why was my amendment skipped?

Yes it is contained within Snowguy's amendment, but his also contains a replacement clause that could thus result in failure on the merits of that addition clause and not on the removal of clause d.

I will first attempt two birds with one stone.  Should it fail, which would be ridiculous, I will simply push an amendment to remove clause D.

Mt St Helens is a very popular monument that has sufferred unpopular funding cuts including the closing of a popular visitors center because monuments are not placed as highly in importance as national parks.  By making it a national park, it would be consistent with the original bill in number of new parks created.  Also, because of the dynamic, changing nature of being an active volcano, it would offer a mainland alternative for those who cannot afford the trip to Hawaii Volcanoes national park.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am not criticizing Mt. St. Helens, Snowguy. My point is simply one of concern for the process here. Granted we had a transition and lost some time because of that but certainly going forward, to presume a comprehensive amendment will automatically pass is presumptuous.

[Blair]

Why was my amendment skipped?

Yes it is contained within Snowguy's amendment, but his also contains a replacement clause that could thus result in failure on the merits of that addition clause and not on the removal of clause d.

I thought it had already been voted on, and in my defense it was skipped before I became speaker

[Blair]

Okay, since I'm Sponsor of the Bill I'm going to object to the amendment, and Snowguy has managed to sort it out along with the fact the 'bad' part has already been removed.

A vote is now being held on yankee's amendment, Senators have 24 hours to vote (or 48 if I'm wrong )

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