Democrats: do you forgive Hillary Clinton for voting for the Iraq War?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Go!

[Blair]

Yes, the march to war inside Washington and Westminster was rather strong. In politics you're going to get it wrong, and I have more respect for her than John Kerry or Edwards who flipped on the issue

[°Leprechaun]

No. She hasn't admitted that it was a mistake, has she?

[Maxwell]

Of course not, because she would make the same mistake again except in a different region.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Of course not, because she would make the same mistake again except in a different region.

Maybe even in the same region.

[Antonio the Sixth]

No. Not that I care much overall, but it's a bad decision she should be held accountable for.

[Maxwell]

Of course not, because she would make the same mistake again except in a different region.

Maybe even in the same region.

Exactly.

[bedstuy]

Of course not, because she would make the same mistake again except in a different region.

Maybe even in the same region.

Exactly.

Is that really true?

For some reason, people view foreign policy through this dichotomous lens, either you're a dove or a hawk.

It's not that simple.  The Iraq War was a neo-con war in planning and execution.  Hillary Clinton is not a neo-con and it would be ridiculous to accuse her of being a neo-con.  She went along with the war, she didn't start it or cheerlead for it. 

Hillary Clinton is basically a pragmatic centrist on foreign policy like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.  The only way that we'll get neo-cons back in charge is if we elect a Republican like Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.

[Beet]

I know some people will take this as parsing, but she never voted "for the Iraq war", she voted for authorization for the use of force, as she made very clear at the time.

And she has admitted that even that was a mistake, yes.

[RINO Tom]

Not a Democrat (and I voted accordingly), but I forgive everyone who voted for the Iraq War.  It was 12 years ago.

[ElectionsGuy]

I'm not a Democrat, and I don't forgive anyone for voting for the Iraq War.

[© tweed]

I know some people will take this as parsing, but she never voted "for the Iraq war", she voted for authorization for the use of force, as she made very clear at the time.

And she has admitted that even that was a mistake, yes.

any other position is untenable in the 2015 Democratic Party.  Hillary, John Kerry, everyone like that was just doing what they thought would be best for their careers.   occasionally you will get a true vampire like Lieberman -- within months he was hated by his own party.

she was a politician doing what politicians do.  if I got to set up an Iraq War Crimes tribunal (and then hand it over to the Iraqis, if they exist as a people anymore) that'd put GWB and Cheney and Rumsfeld away for life, I doubt I'd go so far as to charge any member of Congress who simply voted for the resolution.

[Frodo]

Yes -I have gotten over it.  And so should everyone else.  It's water under the bridge now that she admitted that it was a mistake.  The only people who don't are those with an axe to grind against her for other reasons. 

[IceSpear]

No, of course not. Atlas Democrats only forgive Biden, Reid, Harkin, Kerry, etc.

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Of course not. I might be a little more forgiving if she hadn't voted for the Iran war (good thing the Bush administration declined to take full advantage of Kyl-Lieberman) and hadn't supported arming the Syrian rebels who became ISIS.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Whether an Atlas Dem supports Hillary seems strongly linked to their position on this issue. As of right now, 21 of 36 atlas dems (58%) do NOT forgive Hillary for voting for the Iraq War. The exact same percent (58%) voted for Sanders in the mock South Carolina primary that was held in the 2016 board not too long ago.

Atlas Dems = Single Issue Primary Voters

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Whether an Atlas Dem supports Hillary seems strongly linked to their position on this issue. As of right now, 21 of 36 atlas dems (58%) do NOT forgive Hillary for voting for the Iraq War. The exact same percent (58%) voted for Sanders in the mock South Carolina primary that was held in the 2016 board not too long ago.

Atlas Dems = Single Issue Primary Voters

LOL, as if Hillary was terrible on only one issue.

[Mr. Smith]

Sure I can, Bush and Co. lied through their teeth.

Nonetheless, I'm still gonna vote for the person who saw through the lie from the get-go first. Unless it were Cleland, since he knew it was it crap but voted just to try and stave off Chambliss.

[Cory]

Yes -I have gotten over it.  And so should everyone else.  It's water under the bridge now that she admitted that it was a mistake.  The only people who don't are those with an axe to grind against her for other reasons. 

[Xing]

I'll forgive her, but I won't forget. I don't always agree with Clinton on foreign policy, and it's not an unimportant issue to me. If she shows more poor judgment when it comes to foreign policy, perhaps I won't be so forgiving.

[anvi]

I don't put it in the category of "forgive" or "not forgive" since it wasn't a transgression against me.  I do think it showed incredibly poor judgement.  I realize this is going to sound all full of myself--sorry for that--, but I could tell at the time of the lead-up to war that it was smoke and mirrors.  No really convincing evidence was being presented about WMD and involvement with 9/11, just a lot of flimsy associations and blustery rhetoric.  And it's precisely when almost everyone is clamoring for one course of action that you want a leader to exercise their own judgment the most.  Her current admission that the vote was a mistake might resonate more with me if it was accompanied by 1.) a good plan about what to do now and 2.) a sense of how to prevent such mistakes in the future--both of which are very important given she wants to be president and not just a Senator with one vote.  For the most part, this is the only thing that makes me uneasy with HRC, actually.  The Iraq war, the whole of it, conducted by Bush and Obama, has been an unmitigated disaster for the Iraqi people, for the whole region, for our country's budget and standing and for what may unfold in the near future.  It was a colossal mistake, the ramifications of which we'll be living with of some time to come still.  It's not an issue I can just dismiss when I'm thinking about who to vote for.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Yes, because our VP Biden voted for war too. Bush misused the war powers act, which clearly said, he must exhaust weapons inspection before boots on ground would be used.

He already sent soldiers over there and planned war, when he was told to back up inspectors with ground troops.

[SWE]

Whether an Atlas Dem supports Hillary seems strongly linked to their position on this issue. As of right now, 21 of 36 atlas dems (58%) do NOT forgive Hillary for voting for the Iraq War. The exact same percent (58%) voted for Sanders in the mock South Carolina primary that was held in the 2016 board not too long ago.

Atlas Dems = Single Issue Primary Voters

How can you come to that conclusion by only polling a single issue?

[Cryptic]

Yes -I have gotten over it.  And so should everyone else.  It's water under the bridge now that she admitted that it was a mistake.  The only people who don't are those with an axe to grind against her for other reasons.