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« on: June 17, 2015, 11:01:55 PM »



Clinton 503 61%
Trump 35 38%
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2015, 11:25:24 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 12:52:42 AM »

Donald Trump Republican knows where it's at.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 01:21:20 AM »



Clinton 416-122
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 01:29:31 AM »


Beautiful map, but per Atlas, Colorado and Iowa would still be tossup Smiley

If he puts Palin or another nincompoop on the ticket with him, this could be a very plausible map!
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 08:02:40 AM »

Republicans are not so dumb as to nominate that egotist. Trump is so much in love with himself, he actually believes the world feels the same way about him, which is scary, sad, deluded and narcissistic to the extreme.  Trump is at best will receive the dump of a lifetime,  so lets "DUMP TRUMP"☺
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 08:24:40 AM »

Could Democrats win back the House against Trump?
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 08:40:22 AM »

No experience in public office -- landslide loss.
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 08:48:46 AM »

No experience in public office -- landslide loss.

MUH PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE!!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2015, 09:16:33 AM »

Any map that has Hillary winning CO should be deleted. Mods, plz step up. Thnx.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2015, 09:37:02 AM »

I think Core Republican states would, as Veep's Selina Meyers might put it, "Vote for a bowl of hair." Including Donald Trump's.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2015, 07:11:49 PM »

Hillary would win Utah and Wyoming before she wins NE-03.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2015, 07:16:30 PM »


You forgot Arkansas and West Virginia. Apparently Hillary is super duper popular there and those States would totally, hands-down be ultra Democrat States if Obama wasn't President. Both are immediately likely D. Don't believe me. Just peruse the comments on this forum.
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2015, 08:18:40 PM »


You forgot Arkansas and West Virginia. Apparently Hillary is super duper popular there and those States would totally, hands-down be ultra Democrat States if Obama wasn't President. Both are immediately likely D. Don't believe me. Just peruse the comments on this forum.

Clinton would definitely win those states easily against a generic Republican, but I think the Donald could beat her there. Kentucky is unwinnable for any Republican, though. Too many Appalachian white women who are madly in love with Billary.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2015, 09:19:59 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2015, 04:42:59 PM »

He would get demolished.

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2015, 04:48:13 PM »

He could lose the south.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2015, 06:50:10 PM »


Trump is a joke candidate and voters would treat him as such.  Alaska is surprisingly close.  For a moment in the campaign it looks Clinton has a shot in West Virginia and Kentucky will flip, but it doesn't pan out.

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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2015, 07:55:25 PM »

√ Hillary Clinton: 443 (60.2%)
Donald Trump: 95 (37.6%)
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2015, 08:39:15 PM »



Trump 272
Clinton 266

I see Trump attractive in CO and NV.  NV is a place where Trump wannabes go all the time, and CO is, I believe, on a bit of a rightward swing.  I also see OH and NH going for Trump. 

In truth, I think that the map can be expanded widely either way.  Trump may be a huge bust and put off folks in MO, NC, and even GA, AR, and AZ.  On the other hand, I can see Trump carrying NJ, CT, and PA under certain circumstances, and even IL.  These states are desperate for economic turnaround, and Trump, IMO, has credibility here in ways that other Republicans never have had.  Picking OH for Trump is a bit risky, but they're turning toward the GOP and Trump's a bit of a protectionist.

Trump's a wild card; his nomination would do the most to jar the electoral map.  Which way he'd jar it is not clear.  But he would stand out in ways that no other candidate would.  I think folks here are underrating Trump's upside.
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2015, 09:16:44 PM »

It's tough to say. I think him making the General Election would prove that he is a credible candidate who has run a good campaign, as the GOP isn't crazy enough to nominate him otherwise. And Fuzzy Bear has a point - Trump could attract a lot of people who may not normally vote.

I'm pretty confident that Hillary would win by a moderate amount, but it wouldn't be the landslide some are suggesting.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2015, 09:59:25 PM »

It's tough to say. I think him making the General Election would prove that he is a credible candidate who has run a good campaign, as the GOP isn't crazy enough to nominate him otherwise. And Fuzzy Bear has a point - Trump could attract a lot of people who may not normally vote.

I'm pretty confident that Hillary would win by a moderate amount, but it wouldn't be the landslide some are suggesting.

A lot depends on the role of the economy in the 2016 election.  If it's no more important than it was in recent years, Clinton will probably win, absent a massive downturn in fortune.  But if issues move toward an "It's the Economy, Stupid!" mode, then Trump has a unique opening.  People would be more economic-minded than usual, and they would see Trump as someone who could actually do something about their concerns.

Think about it for a moment.  What do Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee,  Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and even Jeb Bush (let alone Hillary Clinton) actually know about the national economy?  Not very much; they would be advisor-dependent.  Trump, on the other hand, would have advisors, but he'd know how to challenge them and override them. 

It's this simple:  The greater the concern about the economy, the more traction Donald Trump can muster up.  This has, IMO, the potential to go up exponentially, especially if there is any kind of crisis in the economy within the next 6 months.  Trump doesn't hold to the Club For Growth line all the way; he's an independent thinker on the economy, so folks will give him an ear that they won't give the new Phil Gramm. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2015, 07:42:32 AM »



Hillary wins 385-153.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2015, 11:06:25 AM »

No experience in public office -- landslide loss.

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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2015, 11:52:00 AM »

Trump, on the other hand, would have advisors, but he'd know how to challenge them and override them. 

It's this simple:  The greater the concern about the economy, the more traction Donald Trump can muster up. 

How'd that go for Romney?
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