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« on: June 18, 2015, 05:33:35 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 06:44:37 PM »

You mean the oversensitive types of people that want to ban any sort of reference to religion? HP.
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 08:48:50 PM »

Tedious bores gonna bore.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 09:22:48 PM »

You mean the oversensitive types of people that want to ban any sort of reference to religion? HP.

Very much HP, though I didn't always feel this way by any means.

They also, despite often coming from upper-class homes and living relatively privileged lives, have a major persecution complex that is very annoying.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 09:34:20 PM »

You mean the oversensitive types of people that want to ban any sort of reference to religion? HP.

Very much HP, though I didn't always feel this way by any means.

They also, despite often coming from upper-class homes and living relatively privileged lives, have a major persecution complex that is very annoying.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 11:31:12 PM »
« Edited: June 18, 2015, 11:35:37 PM by L.D. Smith, Bay Area Conservadem »

You mean the oversensitive types of people that want to ban any sort of reference to religion? HP.

Very much HP, though I didn't always feel this way by any means.

They also, despite often coming from upper-class homes and living relatively privileged lives, have a major persecution complex that is very annoying.

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Many of them also lack of sense of anything beyond them or doing something because it's beyond them and from a higher power.

At least the most insufferable Born Again does things because they believe it as some kind of divine or natural cause to do the deed instead of "because it's logical".
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 11:37:17 PM »

HP, but this is a loaded question because in most peoples' minds militant = bad regardless of ideology.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2015, 12:03:23 AM »

You mean the oversensitive types of people that want to ban any sort of reference to religion? HP.

Very much HP, though I didn't always feel this way by any means.

They also, despite often coming from upper-class homes and living relatively privileged lives, have a major persecution complex that is very annoying.

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Many of them also lack of sense of anything beyond them or doing something because it's beyond them and from a higher power.

At least the most insufferable Born Again does things because they believe it as some kind of divine or natural cause to do the deed instead of "because it's logical".


A good example of this is the youtuber JaclynGlenn.  She sung a cringeworthy parody entitled Amazing Science (as opposed to Amazing Grace).  Ironically, I might have liked that song 6 months ago, but now the worldview of atheism and the idea that cold, hard logic and science is all that matters now utterly repulsed me.  When people say snarky things like science is their religion, I feel like they are so single minded that they lose out on a lot.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2015, 02:55:35 AM »

HP, but this is a loaded question because in most peoples' minds militant = bad regardless of ideology.
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2015, 03:28:39 AM »

I'm surprised only one person has chosen the third option as of now.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2015, 09:32:02 AM »

Militant ____fill in the blank______ are HPs.
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2015, 09:35:15 AM »

Annoying, pretentious, and politically ineffectual.
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2015, 09:43:57 AM »

You mean the oversensitive types of people that want to ban any sort of reference to religion? HP.

Very much HP, though I didn't always feel this way by any means.

They also, despite often coming from upper-class homes and living relatively privileged lives, have a major persecution complex that is very annoying.

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Many of them also lack of sense of anything beyond them or doing something because it's beyond them and from a higher power.

At least the most insufferable Born Again does things because they believe it as some kind of divine or natural cause to do the deed instead of "because it's logical".


In that case, would you consider me a militant atheist? Because approximately 0% of my decisions are made by divine inspiration, with "because it's logical" being a much more common reason for me to do things. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2015, 10:17:15 AM »

You mean the oversensitive types of people that want to ban any sort of reference to religion? HP.

Very much HP, though I didn't always feel this way by any means.

They also, despite often coming from upper-class homes and living relatively privileged lives, have a major persecution complex that is very annoying.

This

Many of them also lack of sense of anything beyond them or doing something because it's beyond them and/or from a higher power.

At least the most insufferable Born Again does things because they believe it as some kind of divine or natural cause to do the deed instead of "because it's logical".


In that case, would you consider me a militant atheist? Because approximately 0% of my decisions are made by divine inspiration, with "because it's logical" being a much more common reason for me to do things. Tongue

Of course not, you're not an utter Nixon about it all, and you wouldn't go out do objectively horrible things in the name of some kind of silly pseudo-science passed off as logic.




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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2015, 06:36:40 PM »

HP, but this is a loaded question because in most peoples' minds militant = bad regardless of ideology.
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2015, 06:57:34 PM »

Any movement with multiple figures saying variants of "philosophy is dead" has no intellectual appeal to me.
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2015, 10:14:00 AM »

While the middle class dunces that have become the public face of atheism are annoying and stupid, I don't think that militant atheism is necessarily wrong in its call for the destruction of religion nor do I find the basic arguments of it (except for its tendency to reject materialist analyses of religion, or profoundly stupid remarks about Marxism being a 'secular religion', whatever the  that means) incorrect. I consider myself a militant atheist, although I am certainly more inclined toward the critique of religion put forward by Marx and Engels and put into practice by Lenin and Trotsky than I am any of the pontifications of libertarian nutcases like Penn Jillette or pseudo-fascists like Sam Harris.
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2015, 11:39:34 AM »

or profoundly stupid remarks about Marxism being a 'secular religion', whatever the  that means

You know how you have a signature that is a stylized picture of Leon Trotsky looking far better than he ever did in life who has apparently grown to gigantic proportions such that his head is bigger than any of the Red Army soldiers he is commanding? That's basically what they mean.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2015, 12:01:10 PM »

Horrible, Horrible people. Just like overzealous religious people, they want to shove their nonsense down your throats.

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2015, 12:08:00 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2015, 12:21:14 PM »

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Ugh, Christian liturgy is sooooo much better.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2015, 01:05:56 PM »

Anyone who thinks the Holocaust museum shouldn't be allowed to have a Star of David on it is a HP.
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2015, 03:07:44 PM »

or profoundly stupid remarks about Marxism being a 'secular religion', whatever the  that means

You know how you have a signature that is a stylized picture of Leon Trotsky looking far better than he ever did in life who has apparently grown to gigantic proportions such that his head is bigger than any of the Red Army soldiers he is commanding? That's basically what they mean.

Right, and this is of course somehow a phenomenon distinct to Marxism, as compared to, say...



...or carving the heads of dead Presidents into the sides of mountains, building statutes to abstract philosophical ideas, etc, etc. But this term is almost only ever applied to Marxism, in spite of the fact that the ideology that the average militant atheist subscribes to (liberalism) is just as much of a 'secular religion' when held to the same standard, albeit one that has such an overwhelming hold on the body politic that it seems less of an ideology and more of a fact of life (which is why so many of these types describe themselves as 'non-ideological', etc.)

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Ugh, Christian liturgy is sooooo much better.

Psh, the first one sounds way, way better. I'd agree with you on the second though. It's sort of tacky. Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2015, 09:31:18 PM »

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Ugh, Christian liturgy is sooooo much better.

True.  Any attempt by atheists to codify their beliefs (or ideologies like Communism) is just sad and pathetic compared to great statements of faith like the Nicene Creed.
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2015, 10:50:04 AM »

Anyone who thinks the Holocaust museum shouldn't be allowed to have a Star of David on it is a HP.

Dawkins/Hitchens/Harris/Dennet/Mahar/Jillette/HockeyDude said that?
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